Talk:UT Arlington Mavericks

UT Arlington Mavericks Articles Name

There isn't a talk page indicating an existing naming convention for the UT Arlington Mavericks. Since the current branding campaign began ~2007, UT Arlington would pass WP:COMMONNAME. Anything prior to 2007 would show WP:COMMONNAME for the program and teams as UT Arlington or UTA Mavericksas far back as the 1970s. At no time has "Texas–Arlington Mavericks" been the common name. Also, UT Arlington is the preferred name by the University of Texas at Arlington. The following is an excerpt from page 3 of the 2013–14 UT Mavericks men' basketball media guide:

UT Arlington References: The UT Arlington Athletic Department respectfully asks your cooperation in referring to the University’s sports programs as UT Arlington. UT-Arlington, Texas-Arlington and Texas Arlington are among the versions that are incorrect in referring to our athletic programs.

Any articles and categories that haven't yet been moved should be to use UT Arlington Mavericks. BluebonnetLeague (talk) 23:26, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

WP:COMMONNAME isn't about what a university wants to call itself, it's what most independent media/observers call them. For example, ESPN, Yahoo, and even the NCAA use Texas–Arlington. I see that CBSSports uses UT-Arlington, but they seem to be the outlier. It looks like there's an edit war over the names of the articles based on the history of this page, but my opinion is that it should be moved back to Texas–Arlington unless/until most independent media refer to them by this name. Billcasey905 (talk) 00:36, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

No where in my comment did I say WP:COMMONNAME is about what something calls itself, just that the university's preference coincides with the most common name. I could cherry pick independent media like you have done but with UT Arlington Mavericks, (like ESPN, Yahoo!, etc. but there's no reason to base this decision on only a few selected pages. It should be noted though that the Associated Press uses UT Arlington, not Texas–Arlington, and is syndicated on all of the websites previously listed. Also, you incorrectly list Yahoo! Sports as using "Texas–Arlington" when the site you linked to uses "TX Arlington". If you follow the link for the team specific page, you'll see that the header is titled "UT Arlington Mavericks" within the website, Yahoo! Sports is inconsistent with naming. That's why I did a WP:GOOGLETEST. A search for UT Arlington Mavericks excluding "Texas-Arlington" produces 4,980,000 results while Texas-Arlington Mavericks produces only 107,000 results. Most of the results Seems like I was correct in my first comment that the COMMONNAME is UT Arlington. BluebonnetLeague (talk) 04:34, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

I'll take a deeper look later on today. Your google search is pretty convincing, I didn't try that. Billcasey905 (talk) 10:28, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

If you want this thread moved to UT Arlington, then the move needs to be proposed, and discussion must take place with consensus being reached. Treydavis3 (talk) 04:02, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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Requested move 30 June 2018

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Moved as proposed, per WP:SHORTFORM. Renaming the category tree will require a separate discussion, at WP:CFD. bd2412 T 12:05, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

• Texas–Arlington Mavericks → UT Arlington Mavericks
• 2014–15 Texas–Arlington Mavericks men's basketball team → 2014–15 UT Arlington Mavericks men's basketball team
• 2014–15 Texas–Arlington Mavericks women's basketball team → 2014–15 UT Arlington Mavericks women's basketball team
• Texas–Arlington Mavericks men's basketball → UT Arlington Mavericks men's basketball
• Texas–Arlington Mavericks women's basketball → UT Arlington Mavericks women's basketball
• Texas–Arlington Mavericks baseball → UT Arlington Mavericks baseball
• 2017 Texas–Arlington Mavericks baseball team → 2017 UT Arlington Mavericks baseball team
• 2017–18 Texas–Arlington Mavericks men's basketball team → 2017–18 UT Arlington Mavericks men's basketball team
• 2017–18 Texas–Arlington Mavericks women's basketball team → 2017–18 UT Arlington Mavericks women's basketball team
• 2016–17 Texas–Arlington Mavericks men's basketball team → 2016–17 UT Arlington Mavericks men's basketball team
• 2016–17 Texas–Arlington Mavericks women's basketball team → 2016–17 UT Arlington Mavericks women's basketball team
• 2015–16 Texas–Arlington Mavericks men's basketball team → 2015–16 UT Arlington Mavericks men's basketball team

– While "UT Arlington" or "UTA" has consistently been the WP:SELFIDENTITY for University of Texas at Arlington sports (1999; 2007), only since the 2014–15 school year has it been WP:COMMONNAME as shown on national sports media websites from the era:

• ESPN: April 2015
• CBS Sports: February 2015
• Sports Illustrated: as early as November 2013 and continuing into April 2015 and beyond

The Associated Press national wire service uses both "Texas Arlington" and "UT Arlington" in stories about the team [1]. In this story from March 2018, the headline and second paragraph use "Texas", but the third paragraph uses "UT". In contrast, I found AP stories as late as December 2015 using strictly "Texas-Arlington" yet this one from February 2012 using "UT" in the headline and "Texas..." in the story.

In contrast, media prior to 2014 used "Texas–Arlington", such as ESPN (March 2008, March 2014, February 2013), CBS Sports (January 2014), and Sports Illustrated (2000, 2003, 2007, 2011, and 2012). When the school's men's basketball team made the 2008 NCAA Tournament, ESPN commentary about the team used "Texas-Arlington" (see "ESPN's take" section), and the AP recap of the team's NCAA Tournament first round game used "Texas-Arlington" [2].

Thus, I propose that all UT Arlington related sports articles for the 2014–15 season and later use "UT Arlington". Arbor to SJ (talk) 04:19, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

• Support moves. By 2014, the form "UT Arlington" (occasionally "UT–Arlington") was clearly the common name. ONR (talk) 21:02, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Corky 17:40, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
• Comment the rather deep tree of Category:Texas–Arlington Mavericks should be moved along the proposed articles. No such user (talk)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Note: In addition to the pages proposed to be moved, I have moved, for consistency:

• UT Arlington Mavericks football
• UT Arlington Mavericks softball
• UT Arlington Mavericks women's volleyball

Cheers! bd2412 T

Proposed merge of University of Texas at Arlington Rebel theme controversy into UT Arlington Mavericks

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was merge. BusterD (talk) 09:29, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

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We already have three general articles on UT Arlington history plus the athletics article, which has history coverage. That's plenty of room to record this controversy at an appropriate level of encyclopedic detail, which means basically just keeping the lead (and adding why the mascot was controversial to it, something befuddlingly missing at present). Anything more detailed than that is crossing the line into WP:NOTNEWS territory, given that this appears to have been a controversy mainly at UT Arlington and not something that attracted major, sustained attention from general audiences on a national level, as would be needed to justify a standalone page. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 22:13, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Because it involved the entire university and not just athletics, if this article should be merged, it should be merged into the article History of the University of Texas at Arlington (1965–present). Michael Barera (talk) 20:57, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm fine with relevant portions being merged to that article. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 21:16, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

• Yeah, merge to History of the University of Texas at Arlington (1965–present)—I'm not seeing coverage outside of UTA circles, which means the article should certainly be shrunk to fit here instead. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 06:15, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Merge to History of the University of Texas at Arlington (1965–present) for the reasons expressed above. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:46, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Any objections to the merger?

Considering it's been over a year since the above merger discussion was closed, I'm wondering if anybody has any objection to the merge. If so, then that would be a bit of a problem, since I couldn't find any Wikipedia policy that would allow for contesting approved mergers akin to a deletion review or a move review. 100.7.44.80 (talk) 12:14, 20 April 2023 (UTC)