Talk:Texas Declaration of Independence
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Order of names
editIs there some hidden logic to the ordering of the signers of the Texas Declaration of Independence in this article? Why not alphabetical? Any opinions? — Bellhalla 20:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
- I could not figure out any reason to the current order, so I just threw it into the apparent signatory sequence. Alpha would be fine as well, if anyone wants to hit it. Kuru talk 21:04, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
Do you realize that when Texas was taken from Mexico, Mexico as a republic was only 14 years old?
- Aside from the nonsense of "Texas was tken from Mexico", why was this comment made? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcchat66 (talk • contribs) 15:30, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Mexico abolition of slavery a prime motivation
editThis section is horse shit and needs to be removed!!!Who ever put this in here has no idea what they are talking about and only put it here to cause controversy and perpetuate stereotypical myths.
I added this information to the Article, and used Wikipedia’s own page on History of slavery in Texas as a citation Cosand (talk) 18:28, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
I added back and expanded this factual and cited information. If you feel it was improperly sources say so, but, please stop deleting it. Cosand (talk) 19:02, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
ONE footnote for that fat paragraph is not a "cited" anything. I'ma gonna sleep on it and probably delete it tomorrow. WoodyinNYC (talk) 20:58, 30 October 2013 (UTC) (Sorry i meant to sign before posting the first time. Got a little heated I guess. LOL.)
A Texas A&M faculty member disputes this and lists sources at http://www.tamu.edu/faculty/ccbn/dewitt/mckshorts.htm#slavery and http://www.tamu.edu/faculty/ccbn/dewitt/pubbarker.htm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayzee2000 (talk • contribs) 16:28, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
- I undid the revision that deleted this entire section, but would be happy with a less drastic solution. Could it be shortened and incorporated into a broader section about the causes of the Declaration and revolution? Moreover, there isn't any specific mention of slavery in the Declaration, though there are comments about property that might well refer to it. If so (and there actually are citations to that effect) that would be more appropriate. Bennetto (talk) 19:22, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
The problem is the document in question, which is the subject of this article, does not mention slavery at all. The information would be more appropriate in the article on the Texas war of independence.--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 05:16, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- One would have to ask how many Texans owned slaves? And which states did these folks immigated from to correct put this into context vrs rewriting of history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.227.24.151 (talk • contribs) 15:00, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Anglo-American slave owners
editThe piece makes multiple references to Anglo-American slave owners. Whether or not the issue pushed Texas towards revolution or not -- suggesting that it was an "Anglo-American" issue suggests the contributor who wrote it either has a shallow knowledge of Texas history, or does not grasp the meaning of the term "Anglo-American." In 1830 a significant number of settlers in Texas were Welsh-American, Irish-American, and Scottish-American and many of them would have owned slaves. None of those three groups is "Anglo-American."
Austin and the count
editI've made a couple of changes to this article.
- As near as I can tell, Stephen F. Austin wasn't a signatory to the declaration. His name doesn't show up on wikisource:Texas Declaration of Independence, and from what I can tell, he was in New Orleans at the time of the signing ("He arrived in New Orleans in January 1836 and returned again to Texas in June.").
- I've looked at several different online sources of the constitution (here, here, and Wikisource) and it keeps coming back 60. The list on this page had 61, but as near as I can tell, Austin is the main discrepancy, hence my removal. Is there some historical reason why different numbers are cited everywhere? (I've seen everything from 54-59).