Talk:Thalidomide scandal

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| from = Thalidomide | to = Thalidomide scandal | date = 30 March 2020 - 2:33 GMT

--Atiru (talk) 02:34, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Shouldn't this article mention the chirality of the different thalidomide molecules?

Headline. In popular culture, Walter White in breaking bad explains that it was a mirrored molecule that caused the side effects. I'm not schooled in chemistry or pharmaceuticals, but I do remember my highschool chem class making mention of a similar topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A601:A92E:C701:66A2:F9FF:FEDC:AC8E (talk) 20:39, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

In living organism mirrored molecules of thalidomid racemizate one to another. There is no connection between izomers and side effects. --77.87.242.9 (talk) 10:56, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

This is mentioned in Thalidomide#Chirality and biological activity.

In this case I'd say it still makes sense to mention the misconception, if it is that. WofWca (talk) 07:38, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Disputed origin

Conflicting accounts of the origin of the molecule: Synthesized by CIBA AG vs. developed by Ambros at Auschwitz? No primary source found for both assertions.

• https://www.oncozine.com/controversy-the-involvement-of-ciba-ag-in-the-development-of-thalidomide/
• https://ahrp.org/from-the-holocaust-to-thalidomide-a-nazi-legacy/
• https://www.healthworldnet.com/articles/the-best-of-the-best/the-first-seal-baby-the-real-story-of-thalidomide.html

Potential source for primary record:

• The Thalidomide Catastrophe: How it happened, who was responsible and why the search for justice continues after more than six decades Paperback – May 14, 2018 by Martin Johnson (Author), Raymond G. Stokes (Author), Tobias Arndt (Author)

Using as therapy against leprosy

In '70s was thalidomide used in South America. In Brasilia, there were hundreds of children born with defects. --77.87.242.9 (talk) 10:56, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Birth defect crisis, paragraph 1, error?

The noted paragraph lists Grünenthal as a "soap" manufacturer, in relation to manufacturing penicillin. This seems like a machine-translation sort of error, confusing antibiotics for disinfectant and disinfectant for soap, or something of the like. But I am unsure, and am pointing it out so people who could know better can check.

Grünenthal was spun out of the Mäurer & Wirtz company. The Wirtz family (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirtz_(Familie)) founded Chemie Grünenthal, Dalli-Werke (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalli-Werke), and Mäurer & Wirtz.

The original company, Mäurer & Wirtz, was a soap, perfume, and cosmetics company. See:

• https://www.newsweek.com/nazis-and-thalidomide-worst-drug-scandal-all-time-64655
• https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/the-last-german-war-secret/news-story/3239ccc19ffa39bd03850c67f4f7f7a3 Atiru (talk) 02:46, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

dead link -- alternative links

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=+%22Thalidomide%3A+The+Fifty+Year+Fight%22+video

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3f1r17 AND requires log-in https://vimeo.com/151123264 46.24.26.231 (talk) 05:50, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

I don't think that I can correctly edit the article. Can someone else do it? Thanks 46.24.26.231 (talk) 01:17, 23 January 2023 (UTC)