Talk:Thames Barrier

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The link @ Notes to the enviroment agency is dead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.103.196.5 (talk) 16:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Inches? Yards??

Shouldn't the measurements quoted here be metric? Alright, we still use miles, and I like aa pint as much as anyone, but this is describing a work of engineering and in that field I don't think anyone in the UK uses inches, feet or yards. This will just have people reaching for the conversion tables...Girth Summit (talk) 14:03, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

The shell roofs

This article could do with a section on the shell roofs. They are made with glued laminated timber ribs covered with cross-boarded softwood and clad with stainless steel. They were fabricated in Liverpool and shipped to the site on coastal barges. Dendrotek 20:38, 11 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dendrotek (talk • contribs)

You might want to add references to the barrier as it related to the Queen's Jubilee

Hi, I first heard about the Thames Barrier when it was mentioned during news coverage of the Queen's Jubilee; I thought you might want to add something about that here. 75.18.215.50 (talk) 22:35, 27 June 2012 (UTC)Laura

File:Thames Barrier, London, England - Feb 2010.jpg to appear as POTD soon

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Picture of the day

The Thames Barrier, the world's second-largest movable flood barrier, as seen from Silvertown on the north bank of the River Thames during normal operation, looking across to New Charlton. The barrier is located downstream of central London and its purpose is to prevent London from being flooded by exceptionally high tides and storm surges moving up from the sea. It needs to be raised (closed) only during high tide; at ebb tide it can be lowered to release the water that backs up behind it.Photo: David Iliff

Why doesn't the water flow around the barrier when it is closed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.76.80.74 (talk) 15:27, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Dead link reference 1

is this what was cited http://www.docklandsmemories.org.uk/Floods1953.pdf ? Brownturkey (talk) 20:07, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

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London Development Agency

Can the role of London Development Agency with regards to the Thames barrier be clarified here and on that body's page. Jackiespeel (talk) 10:54, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Jackiespeel, sure. Do you have any reference material (URLs please) for us to work from (and cite). —Sladen (talk) 13:59, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Would [1] be appropriate as 'thoroughly official'?

Looking at [2] it appears that the LDA developed the Thames Barrier #Park# (but there may have been some redevelopment of the barrier as well). Jackiespeel (talk) 21:57, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

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Images of the gates and how they work

The images and their captions are confusing. They do not adequately describe how the barrier works. The caption for the image "Thames Barrier", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_Barrier#/media/File:Thames_Barrier_03.jpg states "Close-up of the barrier gates, which are closed when a flood warning is issued". I do not believe this is a close-up, as it shows nearly all of the barrier's rising sector gates. In such a wide view, the hydraulic gate actuators are the only visible feature. A zoom-in is required to see that the rising sector gates are closed (rotated up above the river bed). I suggest cropping the picture to show a single gate and its piers with a caption "Close up a barrier gate in a closed (flood protecting) position".

The second image File:Thames Barrier - simple operation diagram.png could be improved by providing an orientation label. Frankly, I couldn't tell if the blue area was sky or water, and if water which way the river flowed (left to right, right to left, into or out of the image). I suggest adding labelled arrows: normal river flow --> <-- tide or storm surge

Thanks for your consideration. 2601:600:807F:EA17:5903:4423:C702:E8F2 (talk) 16:57, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Don't understand...

"operational since 1984" - but the table gives first closure in 82/83??

"Design and construction" - does not give a single clue about the construction! How was it build?

"there have been 179 flood defence closures" - and 94 of them, more than half, were in just the three years 2000, 2002 and 2013, while in 16 other years there were 1 or 0 - why? 47.71.2.160 (talk) 08:38, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Future

This section currently includes these sentences, "At the time of its construction, the barrier was expected to be used 2–3 times per year. It is now being used 6–7 times per year." (citing a report from 2006). In three of the last five years, the barrier has only been used once, and in the other two years two and three times. The 2006 citation no longer seems to be "now". Noel S McFerran (talk) 22:33, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

the whole article is bad and irritating, see all the crititics above. nobody reads, reacts and changes the artikel. wp is dead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.71.58.7 (talk) 18:53, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Why it was built.

I recall when the Thames Barrier was being considered, the issue was of London and the south of England sinking. Global Warming and Climate Change had not yet been invented. London and the south of England is still sinking; the water is not rising! Of course now we have to blame 'climate change' for rising water levels. As per Dr Patrick Moore (founder of Green Peace), there is no Climate Change emergency! Yes, the barrier is necessary, and it may need to be modified to cope with higher water levels as the land sinks. But dont blame CO2 for any rise in water level. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.19.7.170 (talk) 16:48, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

Architecture

I came to this page to find out about the architect(ure) of the Thames Barrier, as it reminds me of the Sydney Opera House. However, there was no information about the architect. I found this information elsewhere: https://www.architecturaleye.co.uk/portfolios/thames-barrier/

...as I’m not a native english speaker, I’d rather not try to edit the article myself. I just think a visitor of this page might find this piece of information interesting and relevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.76.23.97 (talk) 18:35, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Architecture

I came to this page to find out about the architect(ure) of the Thames Barrier, as it reminds me of the Sydney Opera House. However, there was no information about the architect. I found this information elsewhere: https://www.architecturaleye.co.uk/portfolios/thames-barrier/

...as I’m not a native english speaker, I’d rather not try to edit the article myself. I just think a visitor of this page might find this piece of information interesting and relevant. 85.76.23.97 (talk) 18:38, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Reason for Thames Barrier

When I was studying geography at school in the 60's I was told that the south of England and London in particular were sinking while Scotland was rising. This was due to plate tectonics. The Thames Barrier was installed to protect London from its sinking, not the water level rising. Now of course we are told the water is rising due to Global Warming or Climate Change. Its just another lie by the climate alarmists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.66.207.32 (talk) 21:42, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Map. Was looking for floodplain to understand the function of the barrier.

Found image/map in one of reference(12) pdfs. Map of floodplain should be added to article to understand their existence in relation to the geography and flood.

[3]http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20101216014218/http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/static/documents/Leisure/Thames_Barrier_2010_project_pack.pdf 2A01:799:109B:100:C267:E7C5:9AFB:3ADE (talk) 10:47, 8 February 2024 (UTC)