Talk:Thanksgiving Orphans/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Carbrera (talk · contribs) 03:01, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Infobox

• The television series scene image requires an alt description so please add one

Added alt. --George Ho (talk) 04:13, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

• I don't think "food fighting" is a valid verb

Changed caption. --George Ho (talk) 04:13, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

• Please remove any of the following unused parameters, unless valid and cited information can be added to them:

• Producer
• Music
• Photographer
• Editor
• Production
• Awards

Removed unused parameters. --George Ho (talk) 04:13, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Lead

• The lead is way too short; please add some valuable information up here!

Y Added some info. I hope it's good enough, right? --George Ho (talk) 04:15, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

• "The gang gathers around for a Thanksgiving feast, which later turns into the food fight, one of the highlights of this episode." --> This sounds a bit odd to me; how about "The gang gathers around for a Thanksgiving feast, which later turns into a food fight, one of the highlights of this episode."

Done. George Ho (talk) 04:15, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Plot

Paragraph 1

• "Sam dates his fiancée Wendy. Frasier wants some company." --> "Sam is with his fiancée Wendy, and Frasier wants some company."
• "Cliff's mother volunteers serving soup for the homeless; Cliff already volunteered doing that, so he does not want to." --> "Cliff's mother volunteers serving soup for the homeless, but Cliff has already done that in the past, and does not want to do it again."

Done them all. --George Ho (talk) 03:42, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Paragraph 2

• Remove "(season 5, episode 5)"

Changed it to (1986). --George Ho (talk) 03:43, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Paragraph 3

• "The gang watches football, Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, and wrestling match on television for a few hours until Diane turns off the television and tells them to have dinner right away." --> "The gang watches football, the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, and a wrestling match on television for awhile until Diane turns off the television and tells them to have dinner right away."

Done. --George Ho (talk) 03:43, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Production

Paragraph 1

• "Cheri and Bill Steinkellner wrote the episode, and James Burrows directed it." --> No source
• "Burrows shot the food fight scene twice without choreographing it after the character Sam Malone throws Diane Chambers a spoonful of cranberry sauce, resulting in strong food odor around the set.[1]" --> Needs to be written in past tense
• "In one of the food fight takes, the floor was covered with a "plastic tarp" in effort to prevent vital materials from being broken while the cast was slipping on the floor during the food fight." --> No source
• "In one of the food fight takes, the floor was covered with a "plastic tarp" in effort to prevent vital materials from being broken while the cast was slipping on the floor during the food fight." --> "In one of the food fight takes, the floor was covered with a "plastic tarp", in order to prevent vital materials from being broken while the cast was slipping on the floor during the food fight."
• "However, the tarp attempt was ineffective." --> No source

Y Used Yahoo source. Not sure about the TV Land one (ripped into YouTube). --George Ho (talk) 04:00, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Copy edited as suggested. By the way, can you bold parts of the suggestions in case of clarity?

Paragraph 2

• "Bernadette Birkett, wife of George Wendt who portrays Norm Peterson, appears as Norm's wife Vera in the physical form." --> No source
• "Bernadette Birkett, wife of George Wendt who portrays Norm Peterson, appears as Norm's wife Vera in the physical form." --> "Bernadette Birkett, the wife of George Wendt who portrays Norm Peterson, appears as Norm's wife Vera in the physical form."

Done both. George Ho (talk) 04:01, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Reception

• All good!

References

• Please reduce with "Reflist" --> "Reflist|30em"

Used 50em instead.

• Only five references?

Y Added one more. However, the development of the episode is still rare. I could not find any other source discussing the production of the episode. That would take a lot to find. --George Ho (talk) 04:02, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

End of GA Review:

I don't know if this article is necessarily broad in its coverage. I feel like more can be said of it, and because of that, I will be placing the article on hold for seven days to allow for an expansion to take place; five references for a GA article is not enough to pass. Other Cheers episodes' articles, such as "I Do, Adieu" and "Showdown" are really good examples. I am not trying to be harsh, I'm just trying to give this article an honest and thorough review. Thank you for understanding. Contact me here with any questions, comments, or concerns. Thanks and good luck. Cheers, Carbrera (talk) 03:16, 23 June 2016 (UTC).

@George Ho: Have you finished your changes/expansion to the article? Carbrera (talk) 19:50, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Any other suggestions? Otherwise, I'm finished for now. George Ho (talk) 00:57, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

I had some downtime today and did some research regarding this episode on the good ol' internet, and you are very correct in stating there are few sources on this episode out there, which would usually mean this particular episode isn't notable enough to warrant a separate article from the "List of episodes" article; however, this article did get approved from WP earlier, so I appreciate all of the work you have put into it. I will be passing it now. Thanks for your cooperation and my apologies for the harshness of my review earlier. Sorry. Cheers, Carbrera (talk) 01:04, 24 June 2016 (UTC)!