Talk:The Art of the Sucker Punch/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: –– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:56, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Checking against GA criteria

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   Plot: Vowing vengeance on Shannon for this crime, Brendon challenges the bully to a brawl, despite lacking both the physical ineptness and knowledge to actually engage in a fight. Really? I think you mean the opposite. "despite lacking the ... physical ineptness" is a double negative. And "eptness" isn't a word so this will need reworking.

   Shannon laments about how his bullying ways have caused no one he knows to actually like him, and the kids sympathize with the bully. "...about how his bullying ways have caused no one he knows to actually like him..." Please rewrite grammatically.

   Apart from the above, the main problem that this article has is the complete lack of notability. WP:EPISODE is pretty clear on this. It needs to merged into Home Movies (TV series)#Season 1.

If you insist on merging it, understand that there is already a page called Home Movies (season 1) The Flash ^{I am Jack's complete lack of surprise} 00:47, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

1. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   References are OK, but those that are online just mention the episode in passing, or are just about the series. Nothing there establishes the notability of this episode. "Substantial coverage" of the episode in WP:RS would be needed to establish notability. Take ref #7 [1] Ryan's only words on this episode are a two line plot summary. He does not write that the episode relied on a humor that was both easy to identify with and added a "tremendous amount of humor." He says that about the series.

He specifically mentions the episode's plot when stating that it was easy to identify with and added humor. The Flash ^{I am Jack's complete lack of surprise} 00:47, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

1. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

2. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

3. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

4. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

5. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   OK, I am failing this immediately on general notability concerns. If you disagree with this assessment, plase take it to WP:GAR for community re-assessment. –– Jezhotwells (talk) 22:21, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with your assertion that the notability is not established. There are plenty of sources listing its production and (most importantly) the critical reception surrounding it, including several third-party newspaper sources mentioning its very crappy viewership, critically discussing how it was a continued decrease in ratings. The Flash ^{I am Jack's complete lack of surprise} 00:47, 12 April 2010 (UTC)