Talk:The Bachelor (American TV series) season 21

When Nick Viall was announced as The Bachelor

@Starbucks6789 Nick Viall was announced as the next bachelor on Bachelor in Paradise: After Paradise which is a separate show from Bachelor in Paradise. There have only been two seasons of Bachelor in Paradise: After Paradise. Bachelor in Paradise official website [1]; Bachelor in Paradise: After Paradise offical website [2]. 74thClarkBarHG (talk) 08:35, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

There has been 3 seasons, not 2. Look at the bachelor in paradise page that has all the seasons. It was 3 not 2. I literally watched every episode from season 3. How about actually look for season 3, then you will find it. You obviously have not been paying attention. Starbucks6789 (talk) 06:04, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

@Starbucks6789 I've also watched all 11 episodes from season 3 of Bachelor in Paradise and Nick wasn't announced as the next bachelor in any of them and especially not in episode 4 which aired on August 15, 2016. "How about actually look for season 3, then you will find it." How about you actually tell me what episode you think it's announced in. Here's the episode of Bachelor in Paradise: After Paradise that the bachelor was announced in @ 36:10 into the episode [3]. 74thClarkBarHG (talk) 23:51, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

I never saw him get announced in bachelor in paradise at all. I saw him get announced during Good Morning America. But you're the one saying that there wasn't even 3 seasons. You keep saying there was only 2 seasons, which is wrong. Starbucks6789 (talk) 07:00, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

@Starbucks6789 Have you heard of a show called After Paradise? 74thClarkBarHG (talk) 04:58, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

@Starbucks6789 Please quote me saying that there has only been two seasons or that there wasn't 3 seasons of Bachelor in Paradise. 74thClarkBarHG (talk) 09:35, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

74thClarkBarHG: Nick was originally competed at the heart of The Bachelorette season 10 as one of Andi Dorfman's suitors, and was later given a second chance for Kaitlyn Bristowe's season the following year, ended as runner-up twice in a row. He was a last-minute mixed up before was announced for the August 30 episode of Bachelor in Paradise: After Paradise. Before Nick was selected as the next Bachelor, two of JoJo Fletcher's suitors were going to be a chosen of leads for the Bachelor. The first was Luke Pell, [4] and the latter's second runner-up Chase McNary [5]. Which both men declined to take their roles as to become the next Bachelor, just as situation with Chris Lambton and Ty Brown from Ali Fedotowsky's season of The Bachelor which season 15 role eventually took the role to two-timer Brad Womack. ApprenticeFan ^work 11:47, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

YOU ARE THE ONE SAYING THERE WAS ONLY 2 SEASONS, THEN YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU WATCHED ALL EPISODES OF SEASON 3, THEN SAYING THERE HAS ONLY BEEN 2 SEASONS. MAKE UP YOUR MIND BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN 3 SEASONS. Starbucks6789 (talk) 07:27, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Starbucks6789, I didn't watch later seasons of The Bachelorette nor Bachelor in Paradise, but I am a truly The Bachelor watcher, I didn't see Nick on TV screens in my life. ApprenticeFan ^work 13:55, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Nick was literally on 2 seasons of The Bachelorette, both seasons was the runner-up. Then on SEASON 3 of bachelor in paradise, made it to the finale episode and split up with Jen. Don't be telling me you've never seen Nick on TV when this is 4th TV show he's going to be on related to this show. Starbucks6789 (talk) 08:40, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

@Starbucks6789 "I never saw him get announced in bachelor in paradise at all." Why do you keep on editing the article to say season 3 episode 4 if you never saw him get announced in Bachelor in Paradise at all? 74thClarkBarHG (talk) 07:02, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

@74thClarkBarHG NICK WASN'T EVEN ON SEASON 2 OF BACHELOR IN PARADISE!!! HE WAS ON SEASON 3. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE TRYING TO CORRECT PEOPLE. Season 3 Look their. Starbucks6789 (talk) 06:18, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Fourth Opinion

A third opinion has been requested, but there have already been three editors in this discussion, two of whom are the principal disputants, but also a third editor. As a result, Third Opinion is not applicable. However, it is my opinion that the two disputing editors should each try to find a reliable source for their opinion. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:35, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

@Starbucks6789 Bachelor in Paradise and Bachelor in Paradise: After Paradise are two different television shows. 74thClarkBarHG (talk) 21:27, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

@74thClarkBarHG No they are not. Bachelor in paradise after paradise is people talking about the recent 2 episodes of bachelor in paradise. Are you dumb or something. Seriously. Get a grip and stop trying to win an argument when you don't even know what you are talking about. Starbucks6789 (talk) 06:09, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

@Starbucks6789 If they're the same show, then why do they have two separate official show pages on the ABC website? 74thClarkBarHG (talk) 23:27, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

@74thClarkBarHG You know what I don't even care at the moment. Keep putting false information on Wikipedia pages, please do. If you don't know your facts then don't make a page about a season when you don't even know what you are trying to put on the page. Saying Nick was on season 2 of bachelor in paradise. Get out of here. Starbucks6789 (talk) 06:54, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

It is stated here: http://www.eonline.com/au/news/791247/meet-your-new-bachelor-nick-viall that "star of two seasons of The Bachelorette and this season of Bachelor in Paradise, has been revealed as the new Bachelor. The news was announced live on tonight's After Paradise, by hosts Michelle Collins and Sean Lowe, and the 35 year-old software salesman was on hand to sound off on his new journey." After Paradise is a spin-off show, making it a sperate series. It is similar to Talking Dead, Vanderpump Rules After Show and the many more that exist. Kelege (talk) 07:40, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

@Starbucks6789 Do you have any sources that say that Bachelor in Paradise and Bachelor in Paradise: After Paradise are the same television show? 74thClarkBarHG (talk) 22:14, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

@74thClarkBarHG: @Starbucks6789: I have since created an article for Bachelor in Paradise: After Paradise which contains several sources and information. As I stated, it's an after show in the format of a talk show. Kelege (talk) 07:23, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

@Kelege: Thank you for that article and I actually already edited that page since you started it. The only user that was arguing with us was @Starbucks6789: and that user has been indefinitely blocked from editing so I think we can end this conversation. 74thClarkBarHG (talk) 09:00, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Corinne eliminated?

The contestant chart says Corinne was eliminated in episode 8, but there's nothing about that in this article's episode recap, which notes that the episode ended in a cliffhanger. If Corinne was eliminated, that needs to go in the recap. --Tenebrae (talk) 19:23, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

According to the recap in Entertainment Weekly here, Corinne was eliminated in Episode 9, Feb. 27, not Episode 8. Could another editor weigh in before I change anything, in case I'm somehow misreading the recap? --Tenebrae (talk) 19:28, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

As with the rest of the season, the rose ceremonies have been held at the beginning of the next episode with the results still being listed as part of the previous episodes. Jdavi333 (talk) 20:26, 5 March 2017 (UTC)