Talk:The Ballad of John and Yoko/Archive 1

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"The" or no "The"?

Is this called "Ballad of John and Yoko" or "The Ballad of John and Yoko"? I tend to think it's the latter, based on the preponderance of evidence.

The illustrated picture sleeve omits "The" -- but one needs to remember (or if one doesn't remember, one needs to know) that a minority of copies of the 45 were issued with a picture sleeve, and fewer survive (it was common in the US for kids who bought a record to throw out the sleeve, use it as a poster and later throw it out, etc.). Indeed, the general rule for singles issued on 45s, for consistency's sake, is to use the label of the record as the determining factor with regard to title, because of the minority of 45s that came with title-specific covers.

Before the 1980s, and sometimes even in the 1980s, it was much more common for a 45 to be issued in a generic white sleeve or a company sleeve than with a picture sleeve, so the title on a sleeve can't be taken as authoritative with 45 rpm singles.

Also omitting "The":
-- the US Hey Jude album label
-- the US Hey Jude back cover
-- the A-side of the 1989 British picture disc, picture cover and CD single cover

But all of the following use "The":
-- original studio documentation, as pictured in Mark Lewisohn's The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions book on page 172; Lewisohn also uses "The" throughout his book
-- registration of the song in the U.S. Copyright Office
-- the label of the original US 45 *
-- the label of the original UK 45 *
-- the label of the original Australian 45 *
-- the label of the original Canadian 45
-- the print on the U.S. Americom flexi-disc, sold in vending machines in 1969
-- the label of The Beatles 1967-1970
-- the inner gatefold of The Beatles 1967-1970
-- the sticker attached to the shrink wrap of The Beatles 1967-1970
-- the B-side of the 1989 British picture disc
-- the longbox of the U.S. 1989 3" CD single *
-- The Beatles 1 cover and tracklisting
-- original Australian sheet music
-- original French picture sleeve *
-- original German picture sleeve *
-- original Israeli picture sleeve *
-- original Japanese picture sleeve *

* all of these were for sale/auction on eBay as of the time stamp

Bouquets and brickbats are welcome. Cheemo 12:47, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:48, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Instrumentation

According to Lewishon, John played two lead guitars. The tracks were recorded as follows:

1. John: acoustic guitar and lead vocals / Paul: drums.

2. John: lead guitar / Paul: piano.

3. John: another lead guitar / Paul: bass.

4. John: percussion (on the back of an acoustic guitar) / Paul: harmony vocals and maracas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.40.0.34 (talk) 20:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

You need to cite your source in the article. Otherwise your edits can be reverted or deleted. Ward3001 (talk) 22:41, 10 March 2008 (UTC)