Talk:The Barrier

Rubble Creek boulder field

Almost inserted mention of this but couldn't work it in comfortably without too much work; it's late. But when you're in Garibaldi, or just north of it along the highway, the presence of teh Rubble Creek boulder field is a reminder why Garibaldi got evacuated; it was a very controversial thing, hotly debated and loudly condemend at the time.

First Nations community at Water Tank

Water Tank is more or less where Pinecrest is now; so named for obvious reasons, top of the grade for the old steam locomotives, or at least the worst part of it. According to OldManRivers there was a joint Lil'wat-Skwxwu7mesh community here until it was wiped out by a landslide....makes me wonder if it was a Barrier landslide, and if it was the Barrier or what it was; not sure if the village he's tlaking about was Watertank; I know of it from Chubb Pascal's old columns in the local rag - no, not Chubb, geez I wish I could remember this guy's name...Clarence maybe; so bad it was great; anyway hopefully OMR can add some Skwxwu7mesh aspects to the Barrier, if any, and fill in or de-confirm the story/notion that it was the Barrier's letting go in the 1850s that destroyed aforesaid village.Skookum1 (talk) 07:04, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

There appears to be other areas in the Garibaldi area notable for landslides. There's a huge debris fan at the mouth of the Cheekye River just north of Brackendale called the Cheekye Fan. Garibaldi itself appears to have the landslide source.[1] --Black Tusk (talk) 03:50, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Steep mountainsides by definition are steep because things are always fallin' off them; coming from deep mountain country as I do; Highway 99 along Highway Sound is a case in point, one big wall of rotten rock with a series of debris chutes otherwise known as creeks. the native village OMR was talking about may not be Watertank, I'm not sure where exactly it was, somewhere south of Alta Lake; nowhere around Pinecrest for a mountaisde to fall on them, y'see; maybe it was Garibaldi townsite/Rubble Creek, but given any knowledge of a vanished village - which maybe it's true the railway resort people didn't know about when they made it the main "town" in the rail corridor (such as it was), but given Rubble Creek it was maybe a stuipd place to put a town in the first place. Any geottechnical data from the building of the railway, sadly, would be in the fonds of Foley, Welch * Stewart and I don't think they made it into the provinclal archives but like a lot of private company records have been destroeyd...I used to work for DoH in Lillooet and wound up being given some avalanche maps of the Duffey Lake Road and the Bridge River Road/Road 40; rock chutes, snow chutes, one after the other. Kinda scary as often what can fall on you you can't actually see from the road; as with Howe Sound....Skookum1 (talk) 04:07, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

whenever I drive past Frank, Alberta I"m always sadly struck by how ironic it was to build a town out away from the mountains, only to have the only mountain in twenty miles be the one that fell right on you....Skookum1 (talk) 04:19, 5 July 2008 (UTC)