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Blackstone AUM

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As of September 30, 2018, Blackstone had $457 billion under management.[1]

  • in the intro section

• Information to be added or removed: Change the Assets Under Management to $472B • Explanation of issue: This has been announced and updated reflecting financials as of 12/31 • References supporting change: [2]

  • in the callout box section

• Information to be added or removed: the subsidiaries should both be removed • Explanation of issue: These are just 2 of the hundreds of companies Blackstone has invested in. Not subsidiaries of the firm. Blackstone has exited its Hilton investment anyway. • References supporting change: [3]

  • in the callout box section

• Information to be added or removed: revenue, operating income, net income, AUM, total assets should all be updated. • Explanation of issue: These are updated by the company quarterly and reported by the SEC. They are inaccurate unless they are kept updated. Would suggest either deleting these or updating per the below. • References supporting change: [4]

  • in the Business segments section

• Information to be added or removed: Private equity AUM should be updated to 130.7, Real estate AUM 136.2 • Explanation of issue: The existing number is outdated. These new numbers are from reported financials to the SEC as of 12/31. Slide 8 of the attached. • References supporting change: [5]

  • in the corporate private equity section

• Information to be added or removed: Blackstone was the largest private equity firm based on a report by Private Equity International looking at capital raised in the last 5 years. • Explanation of issue: The existing reference is 8 years old. This is updated. Wikipedia's page "List of private equity firms" references this report. • References supporting change: [6]

  • in the corporate private equity section

• Information to be added or removed: Blackstone reports having over 250 private equity employees across the world. • Explanation of issue: The existing reference is multiple years old. • References supporting change: [7]

  • in the corporate private equity section

• Information to be added or removed: Suggest removing the table listing private equity funds. • Explanation of issue: The data included in the chart is 9 years old and thus incomplete and inaccurate in describing the business

  • in the real estate section

• Information to be added or removed: Blackstone reports having over over 500 real estate employees across the world. • Explanation of issue: The existing reference is multiple years old. • References supporting change: [8]

  • in the real estate section

• Information to be added or removed: Suggest removing the table listing real estate funds. • Explanation of issue: The data included in the chart is 9 years old and thus incomplete and inaccurate in describing the business

  • in the Business segments section

• Information to be added or removed: BAAM AUM should be updated to 77.8 as of December 31, 2018 • Explanation of issue: The existing number is outdated. These new numbers are from reported financials to the SEC as of 12/31. Slide 8 of the attached. • References supporting change: [9]

  • Financial advisory services

• Information to be added or removed: this section should be deleted • Explanation of issue: Blackstone spun off its financial advisory business in 2014 • References supporting change: [10]

References

  1. ^ [1], additional text.
  2. ^ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-blackstone-group-results/blackstone-earnings-sink-42-percent-on-lower-fees-managed-assets-hit-record-idUSKCN1PP1KG
  3. ^ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-18/blackstone-is-said-to-plan-sale-of-remaining-stake-in-hilton
  4. ^ http://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001393818/b4ae7923-ac1b-4e81-afd3-cd96558f2fbd.pdf
  5. ^ http://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001393818/b4ae7923-ac1b-4e81-afd3-cd96558f2fbd.pdf
  6. ^ https://www.privateequityinternational.com/database/#/pei-300
  7. ^ https://www.blackstone.com/the-firm/asset-management/private-equity
  8. ^ https://www.blackstone.com/the-firm/asset-management/real-estate
  9. ^ http://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001393818/b4ae7923-ac1b-4e81-afd3-cd96558f2fbd.pdf
  10. ^ https://www.wsj.com/articles/blackstone-group-to-spin-off-financial-advisory-business-1412946726 https://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/10/10/blackstone-to-spin-off-its-advisory-business/ https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/blackstone-successfully-completes-spin-off-of-pjt-partners-2015-10-01

ThomasClements Blackstone (talk) 17:50, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Reply 5-FEB-2019

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References

  1. ^ Sjöblad, Tristan. The Sun. Academic Press, 2018, p. 1.
  2. ^ Duvalier, Gabrielle. "Size of the Moon", Scientific American, 51(78):46.
  3. ^ Uemura, Shū. The Sun's Heat. Academic Press, 2018, p. 2.

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revisions part 1

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
  • in the intro section

• Information to be added or removed: Change the Assets Under Management to $472B • Explanation of issue: This has been announced and updated reflecting financials as of 12/31 • References supporting change: [1]

  • in the callout box section

• Information to be added or removed: revenue, operating income, net income, AUM, total assets should all be updated. • Explanation of issue: These are updated by the company quarterly and reported by the SEC. They are inaccurate unless they are kept updated. Would suggest either deleting these or updating per the below. • References supporting change: [2]

  • in the Business segments section

• Information to be added or removed: Private equity AUM should be updated to 130.7, Real estate AUM 136.2 • Explanation of issue: The existing number is outdated. These new numbers are from reported financials to the SEC as of 12/31. • References supporting change: [3]

  • in the Business segments section

• Information to be added or removed: BAAM AUM should be updated to 77.8 as of December 31, 2018 • Explanation of issue: The existing number is outdated. These new numbers are from reported financials to the SEC as of 12/31. • References supporting change: [4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThomasClements Blackstone (talk • contribs) 21:52, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Blackstone Group L.P. (Jan 31, 2019). Form 8K: Blackstone Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2018 Results (PDF) (Report). United States Securities and Exchanges Commission. p. 14. Retrieved Feb 5, 2019. {{cite report}}: Unknown parameter |authors= ignored (help)
  2. ^ Blackstone Group L.P. (Jan 31, 2019). Form 8K: Blackstone Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2018 Results (PDF) (Report). United States Securities and Exchanges Commission. p. 7,14. Retrieved Feb 5, 2019. {{cite report}}: Unknown parameter |authors= ignored (help)
  3. ^ Blackstone Group L.P. (Jan 31, 2019). Form 8K: Blackstone Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2018 Results (PDF) (Report). United States Securities and Exchanges Commission. p. 14. Retrieved Feb 5, 2019. {{cite report}}: Unknown parameter |authors= ignored (help)
  4. ^ Blackstone Group L.P. (Jan 31, 2019). Form 8K: Blackstone Reports Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2018 Results (PDF) (Report). United States Securities and Exchanges Commission. p. 14. Retrieved Feb 5, 2019. {{cite report}}: Unknown parameter |authors= ignored (help)

Reply 5-FEB-2019

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  1.  Y The company's total |AUM= was placed in the lead section as an approximate figure.[a]
  2.  Y The company's total |AUM= was updated in the infobox as a more precise number. (Thank you for providing the page number)  
  3. The other figures could not be updated as they were not individually proposed. Please state the desired figures to be inserted in their respective parameters so that the infobox may be updated.
  4. The 'business segments' section (aka the "leading" business section placed under a level 2 heading just before the main subsections which are placed under level 3 headings) was changed to a simple list. Having the leading "business" section each containing total figures for the separate divisions is to have essentially two infoboxes, with both of them containing these summary-type financial figures. A summary of the financial figures for each division may be placed in their respective subsections, where the reader might reasonably expect them to be.

  Additional changes made:

  1. An effort was made to reduce the numerous duplicate links in the article.
  2. The Self dealing section was omitted, as its contents were insufficiently paraphrased from the source material, per WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE. A listing of the problematic text may be found here.

Regards,  Spintendo  23:07, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Notes

  1. ^ The need to change this number yearly should be lessened with the use of an approximate number. However, the use of the {{as of}} template will help with changing it in the future, if need be.

Request edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
  • in the callout box section

• Information to be added or removed: the subsidiaries should both be removed • Explanation of issue: These are just 2 of the hundreds of companies Blackstone has invested in. Not subsidiaries of the firm. In any case, Blackstone has exited its Hilton investment. • References supporting change: [1]

  • in the corporate private equity section

• Information to be added or removed: Blackstone was the 2nd largest private equity firm based on the 2018 report by Private Equity International looking at capital raised in the last 5 years. • Explanation of issue: The existing reference is 8 years old. This is updated. Wikipedia's page "List of private equity firms" references this report. • References supporting change: [2]

  • in the corporate private equity section

• Information to be added or removed: Blackstone reports having over 250 private equity employees across the world. • Explanation of issue: The existing reference is multiple years old. • References supporting change: [3]

  • in the corporate private equity section

• Information to be added or removed: Suggest removing the table listing private equity funds. • Explanation of issue: The data included in the chart is 9 years old and thus incomplete and inaccurate in describing the business. The sourced information (Preqin) is not a public database that can be accessed to update this. It should be removed unless someone can provide the updated information.

  • in the real estate section

• Information to be added or removed: Blackstone reports having over over 500 real estate employees across the world. • Explanation of issue: The existing reference is multiple years old. • References supporting change: [4]

  • in the real estate section

• Information to be added or removed: Suggest removing the table listing real estate funds. • Explanation of issue: The data included in the chart is 9 years old and thus incomplete and inaccurate in describing the business. The sourced information (Preqin) is not a public database that can be accessed to update this. It should be removed unless someone can provide the updated information.

  • financial advisory services edit

• Information to be added or removed: this section should be deleted • Explanation of issue: Blackstone spun off its financial advisory business in 2014. It is now a separate company (PJT) • References supporting change: [5]

ThomasClements Blackstone (talk) 14:18, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Tan, Gillian (May 18, 2018). "Blackstone Exits Hilton, Earning $14 Billion After 11 Years". Retrieved 2/6/2019. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |access-date= (help)
  2. ^ "PEI 300". Private Equity International. PEI Media. Retrieved 2/6/2019. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |access-date= (help)
  3. ^ "Blackstone". Blackstone. Retrieved 2/6/2019. Our team of over 250 private equity professionals around the world are based out of offices in the U.S., Europe and Asia {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |access-date= (help)
  4. ^ "Blackstone". Blackstone. Retrieved 2/6/2019. The team consists of over 500 real estate professionals in 12 offices around the globe. We believe this breadth enables Blackstone to identify and evaluate opportunities worldwide. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |access-date= (help)
  5. ^ Dezember, Ryan (October 10, 2014). "Blackstone Group to Spin Off Financial Advisory Business". Retrieved 2/6/2019. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |access-date= (help)

Reply 7-FEB-2019

   Edit requests implemented    Spintendo  08:39, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

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