Talk:The Buddha of Suburbia (album)/GA1

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Reviewer: Mujinga (talk · contribs) 08:34, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Overview

I'll take this one as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/GAN Backlog Drives/January 2022. I vaguely remember the TV series Mujinga (talk) 08:34, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Thanks for an interesting read, the sources have certainly been consulted for this article. I'll put it on hold for seven days for the comments below to be addressed, please drop me a line when you are done or if something needs clarifying. Mujinga (talk) 09:18, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• Mujinga Thanks for the quick review and the kind words! Responses below :-) – zmbro _(talk) 16:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• Nice one, this is basically a GA now, I just wouldn't mind a response on renaming the song article and on commas. The commas shouldn't hold up anything for too long though. Cheers Mujinga (talk) 17:40, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• I salute the attention to detail, making this a GA Mujinga (talk) 17:51, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Earwig copyvio check

• earwig throws up nothing to worry about

Pictures

• ok

Infobox

• ok

Lead

• "It wasn't released" - It was not released

• That Bowie said it was his fave album in 2003 is worth mentioning here

• Both done

Conception and recording

• "While promoting his then-upcoming album Black Tie White Noise in February 1993, David Bowie spoke with British novelist Hanif Kureishi for Interview magazine, who sought permission to use some of Bowie's older material[b] for an upcoming adaptation of Kureishi's 1990 novel The Buddha of Suburbia.[8][9]" - suggest better as two sentences: While promoting his then-upcoming album Black Tie White Noise in February 1993, David Bowie spoke with British novelist Hanif Kureishi for Interview magazine. Kureishi sought permission to use some of Bowie's older material[b] for an upcoming adaptation of his 1990 novel The Buddha of Suburbia.[8][9]

• Done

• " Bowie agreed " - to the use of his material? Right now it sounds like he agreed that it reminded him of his youth

• Clarified

• "recalling that The Buddha of Suburbia "- should it be The Buddha of Suburbia the album or "The Buddha of Suburbia" the track?

• Album

Music and lyrics

• I'm noting sometimes sentences end ." and sometimes ". so that should be made consistent, ". seems better to me, easily resolved by keyword search

• I structured them per MOS:QWQ, so full quotes have quotes outside punctuation while shortened quotes have the opposite. – zmbro _(talk) 16:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• ooh thanks for that, i might have advised someone else wrongly earlier today, eek
• however i do think for example: "The album doesn't find Bowie diverging from anything he'd done before and feels like another middling entry in the midst of a decade where he would put out some of his most disappointing work," concluding "this record doesn't have much to offer to anyone who isn't a die-hard fan." should have the last full stop outside the apostrophe Mujinga (talk) 17:34, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• Mujinga Fixed – zmbro _(talk) 17:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• Zmbro brilliant, do you mind checking any other instances of ." then we really are done Mujinga (talk) 17:43, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• Mujinga All good now – zmbro _(talk) 17:44, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• Zmbro haha excellent then we are done and congrats on the good article Mujinga (talk) 17:47, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• "noted the precense" presence?

• I can never spell that goddamn word right lol – zmbro _(talk) 16:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• (comment on quote) wow what a crazy quote from bowie! he had such weird working methods

• He really did. Truly one of a kind – zmbro _(talk) 16:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Songs

• "The title track was written" - may as well name it eg The title track "Buddha of Suburbia" was written

• Done

• This is a digression, but the wikipedia article on the song should be called 'Buddha of Suburbia (song)' not 'The Buddha of Suburbia (song)' right? If you agree, I'll change it. Mujinga (talk) 17:36, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• It's weird because on the album there is no 'the' but on the single's sleeve there is. So Idk who to believe. – zmbro _(talk) 17:40, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• Oho! Then I'll leave it alone Mujinga (talk) 17:42, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• Yeah Pegg doesn't use 'the' but O'Leary does so it's very inconsistent – zmbro _(talk) 17:43, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• "The title is an amalgamation of Hanif Kureishi" - anagram?

• Yep my bad

Release and reissues

• "featuring a still frame from a BBC stage production of The Jungle Book overlaid by a map of Beckenham" if that is the image in the infobox, then the frame overlays the map

• Whoops, fixed

• "remained obscure again until" - suggest remove again

• Done

Critical reception

• "Some reviewers labeled it" - since we are Br Eng, labeled is acceptable but labelled is more normal

• Agreed

• "believing it is "worth a listen" among Bowie's fans" - suggest cutting or rephrasing

• Trimmed

• "Bowie's others 1990s works" - Bowie's other 1990s works

• Done

• first mention of Perone so can be James E. Perone

• Oops. When you do these sections out of order sometimes you miss these things. – zmbro _(talk) 16:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• since The Rolling Stone Album Guide gave one star out of five it would be worth mentioning or quoting part of that review in the text

• Unfortunately it's not giving me access to that at the moment. From what I recall looking at it months ago I don't think they mentioned much. – zmbro _(talk) 16:38, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

• fairplay thanks for the attempt Mujinga (talk) 17:37, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Last sections

• Track listing ok, Personnel ok , Notes ok, Refs ok, Sources ok