Talk:The Convict

Dunder Mifflin

I am going through several articles and changing instances of "Dunder-Mifflin" to "Dunder Mifflin" (no hyphen) as it is the proper "spelling" of the company name (see Talk page at Dunder Mifflin). Just leaving a note to say that I've gone through this page. :) Fieryrogue 16:40, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

WBRE

ok in the closing credits its says "New Footage Provided by WBRE-TV" does anyone know what new footage they are talking about? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.98.105.119 (talk) 07:55:37, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

Prison Mike

My feeling is that we don't actually need two articles on this episode. Whatever is encyclopedic about Prison Mike can be put into this article. I've proposed that Prison Mike be merged into this article. Opinions? --Tony Sidaway 15:46, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Support. I created the redirect in the first place, and there's not really that much info needed on the guy. Wizardman 16:03, 23 September 2007 (UTC).

No support. He is the funniest character on a hugely popular show. Fans of the office will understand. More info is better than less. It's a good, solid article and well written. No harm here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lindsay123 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 23 September 2007

Support: He's a minor character who only appeared once and is unlikely to appear again. In addition, it seems like a good portion of this article is just rehashing the episode (which should go in the episode's article) and Michael's life (which should go in his article). There's really not a whole lot in it that isn't already in one of those two articles or couldn't easily be put there. I think if Prison Mike shows up again in another episode, then we might consider giving him his own article, but until then he should be merged. Eatcacti 22:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I'm happy that there is support for this. --Tony Sidaway 13:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

That's not a consensus, Tony. Tony Sidaway apparently has a history of deleting articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lindsay123 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

First of all, consensus doesn't necessarily mean unanimity, and you were the only one who didn't agree with the merge. Second, the page was not merged because it was badly written or anything like that, but because Prison Mike just isn't notable enough to warrant his own article. Check out the Talk page on List of characters from The Office (US) and note that it has consistently been the consensus that characters who appear in only one episode do not get their own article and usually don't even get a mention as minor characters. Also see WP:FICT for the guidelines on what makes a fiction article notable. Given all that I just don't see how Prison Mike is notable. Eatcacti 20:48, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I've had enough. Rather than get into an edit war to maintain the redirect, I've listed Prison Mike for deletion:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prison Mike

--Tony Sidaway 05:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Had enough of what? Your obsession with deleting chunks of articles? I looked at your edits. Historically, it doesn't look like you create anything. It looks like you just go to random articles and cut out chunks without discussion. Hmm.Lindsay —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 13:10, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Convict/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: TBrandley (talk · contribs) 15:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll review this very soon. But I have to say that the image in the infobox, is truly, hilarious. Also, happy to report that there are no dab links, or dead links. TBrandley 15:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm pretty fond of ol' Prison Mike. Wish he would have made a return before Carell left! Ruby 2010/2013 15:43, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Infobox

• Despite the awesomeness of the picture, it's non-free rationale needs to be expanded upon, or the image has to be removed. :(

• I rewrote the purpose section ("To illustrate a scene noticed by television critics and help readers visualize Carell's "Prison Mike" character, a prominent component of the episode"). Ruby 2010/2013 15:29, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Still not a good enough rationale. It should be talked about in production, to help the understand the topic? You state that it helps reader understand it, how? Also, the image's credits to NBC should be removed. See on the left side of the picture. Regards. TBrandley 22:21, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• That screenshot is truly a mess, and though it provided some benefit when viewed from critics' perspective, I've removed it. It isn't necessary enough to replace it with a logo-less screenshot, IMO. Ruby 2010/2013 02:31, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

• Where is the production code referenced? IGN, epguides, DVD release, etc.

• I found some contradictory information via a Google search, and thought it would just be easier to remove it. I don't think it was really that important to include. Ruby 2010/2013 15:29, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
  • I'd re-add it, personally. It's good to show any information that can be included. Try referencing IGN here. It appears that, by a few sources, that the episode's production code is "309". TBrandley 22:21, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 02:31, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

• Add "running time" to the infobox

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
  • I'll reference it to iTunes Store. TBrandley 22:21, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 02:31, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

• *List of The Office (U.S. TV series) episodes". The Office should be italics

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Lede

• "The episode was the first original script written for the show by Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant". What? Confusing.

•  Done Rewrote it Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• "original British series of the same name". Comedy series?

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Plot

• Nothing to be seen

Production

• "British series of the same name" Comedy series?

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• "The third season DVD contains several scenes that were deleted from the final cut of the episode. These include Dwight and Andy verbally sparring in the kitchen, Dwight informing Michael that he believes Martin has murdered Meredith, Michael explaining that he created "Prison Mike" in an improvisation class, and Pam giving Andy wildly incorrect tips for hanging out with Jim." Small paragraph should be merged.

• I hate short paragraphs as much as the next guy, but there's really no where to merge this one. Deleted scenes should stay in their own section. Ruby 2010/2013 15:29, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Reception

• Move image to right side per MOS:IMAGELOCATION

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• "The Convict" 'was first broadcast". Add bolded word.

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• ""The Convict" first broadcast in the United States on November 30, 2006,[5] near the end of the fall sweeps period". What channel was it on? It's only in lede, is missing here. Per WP:LEDE.

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• "AOL TV"? Isn't it The Huffington Post now?

• This is a bit tricky. The reviews were written by AOL TV staff and published by AOL TV. I can't very well say "Writing for The Huffington Post, Michael Sciannamea" or "Michael Sciannamea of the Huffington Post", as that would be untrue. Thoughts? Ruby 2010/2013 15:29, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
  • I suppose so. Don't change it. It's fine, there. TBrandley 22:21, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• US → U.S.

• MOS:ACRO says either abbreviation works (as long as they are consistent with other abbreviations within the article). "The Convict" used US and UK in their quotes, so I think it would look better to keep them all the same. Ruby 2010/2013 15:29, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

References

• Ref. 1: "Give Me My Remote" is not a "high-quality" source good for Wikipedia. Remove.

• I strongly disagree. Give Me My Remote has its own editorial board (the cited author, Kath Skerry, is their founder and editor). The site has also received attention from other media outlets, including CNN, who have quoted Skerry several times. Ruby 2010/2013 15:29, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• Ref. 1: Double quotes (") should be single quotes ('), as per MOS: guidelines for references

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• Ref. 2: Double quotes (") should be single quotes ('), as per MOS: guidelines for references

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• Ref. 5: I think citing/referencing the episode for those above statements is WP:OR. The broadcast one can for sure be replaced

• I replaced the episode source that was being used to cite the broadcast. Blitz' name appears in the credits as director and should definitely be included for that part of it. I'm unsure about where I should find a RS detailing that it was his first episode of the series; I don't want to remove it, as I think it's important to mention. Ruby 2010/2013 15:29, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• Ref. 9: "AOL TV"? Isn't it The Huffington Post now?

• See above. Ruby 2010/2013 15:29, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• Ref. 12: The Boston Herald should be without "the". That isn't part of the official newspaper title

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• Ref. 12: Curly quotations should be regular per MOS: guidelines

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

External links

• Link NBC.com

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

• Categories below should be sorted in alphabetical order

•  Done Ruby 2010/2013 14:57, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Great work on the article. On hold for now, per the above issues to be fixed. Cheers, TBrandley 16:47, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the review! Please see my replies above. Ruby 2010/2013 15:29, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

No problem. The article appears good now. Pass. TBrandley 23:23, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

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