Talk:The Devil in I

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Binksternet in topic Genre

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The song is not a nu metal song so it cant fit under the nu metal category. Nor heavy metal or groove metal. Keep it on Alternative metal until more discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanFaceless (talkcontribs) 24 August 2014 16:46 (UTC)

Thanks for your opinion. We go based on verifiable information, preferably from reliable sources. Walter Görlitz (talk)

^ lol pwned — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.117.31 (talk) 23:36, 27 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Okay, so now it's written as hard rock. That's ridiculous. I think the source supporting this statement doesn't really mean "hard rock" as we have it as our definition on Wikipedia. It'd be stupid to think this isn't alternative or heavy metal, there's other songs by Slipknot that are considered metal on WP that don't have sources and are less rough than this song. (cough, cough, "Dead Memories," cough cough.) We know better and I'm pretty sure EVERYONE can agree that it is some type of metal. Now just to think of what metal to call it. If anyone finds anything, please list it along with the respective genre you found (it could be nu metal for all we, as a community, care.). I have been unable to find anything to support this statement but people who just say it is that's not in an article. DannyMusicEditor (talk) 23:16, 4 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

I personally agree with you, but wikipedia is sadly not about the truth, it's about citable material. Slipknot are a popular band, we'll find sources eventually. Andrzejbanas (talk) 14:36, 7 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

This song is no where near hard rock. Its way to heavy for that label. I agree with the first statement. Alternative metal and modern heavy metal is much more suitable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PleaseConsider (talkcontribs) 01:13, 11 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

While that's true, it doesn't work that way in just adding alternative metal. This, however, is not the point of my statement. I think maybe we should remove hard rock because those people who wrote those articles are idiots and have no idea what they're talking about, it just causes controversy among inexperienced editors who don't know better than to not mess with them. (Although they're right and it shouldn't be hard rock, they just keep replacing it with nu metal.) Let me know what you all think. DannyMusicEditor (talk) 21:12, 25 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
The hard rock genre is supported by two sources. To me, that settles it. If an editor here has a beef with that genre assigned to this song then they should go write a reliable source saying otherwise. Binksternet (talk) 22:55, 25 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
The fact that the people in the cited source are wrong is not my point. I'm saying that it spawns vandalism. I'm thinking we should remove it so it's not constantly being changed to something besides what the source says. We have something saying heavy metal, and that's all "The Devil in I" is, besides a little thrash metal influence that's not apparent enough to note. DannyMusicEditor (talk) 19:54, 26 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
There is no "fact" that the two cited sources are wrong. Genres are a matter of opinion. Two sources support the hard rock genre, so we should keep it in the article. I for one am not willing to bow to pressure from vandalism. Binksternet (talk) 21:11, 26 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

I think it might be a good idea to protect this page.

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Unsourced and "disguised" genre changes are becoming persistent. (someone hid a nu metal listing behind a source supporting hard rock. I don't even agree with nu metal, actually.) Me and Andrzejbanas have reverted tons of edits on this page and The Negative One has also received a little trouble with its genre. Perhaps we might want to protect it from becoming further vandalized by genre. (Although I hate that hard rock listing myself, and I did that myself, he seems to have taught me pretty much all of Slipknot's material needs sources for genres, release dates, and record label.) I suppose we don't have to just yet, but if it keeps up, maybe we might have to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DannyMusicEditor (talkcontribs) 20:44, 7 October 2014 (UTC)Reply