Talk:The Flash

Carmine Infantino

I think there should be something (a section?) on the contribution of Carmine Infantino - to my mind the greatest Flash artist. His covers for The Flash (and Batman) defined the look of silver age DC.Twizzlemas (talk) 18:03, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Jon Fox

This article also includes no information on Jon Fox. I'm requesting it, but I am not really well qualified to supply it.

Walter West

This article has absolutely no information on Walter West, aka Flash IV (some information about him here: http://www.hyperborea.org/flash/walter.html). First appearing in 1999, he was the only of the many Flashes from alternate timelines who we've met across the years (such as John Fox) that actually stayed for a relatively long time in the mainstream timeline, going as far as filling in as Flash in the Titans and the JLA after leaving his alternate present while Wally was not around (rather than being Flash in the distant future and travelling to the past for kicks and for the sake of discrediting his predecessor, like John Fox). I wanted to bring up the subject of Walter West because if someone new takes over as Flash within the pages of Infinite Crisis, 52 or the new Flash title, I don't want people incorrectly refferring to him as "Flash IV", instead of "Flash V". --Ace ETP 00:59, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Ace, the problems with counting Walter West as a Flash is that: 1) He is an alternate version of Wally, and 2) DC themselves do not count him as an "offical" Flash. As far as DC is concerned the only people to officially hold the title of the Flash is Jay Garrick, Barry Allen, Wally West, and (as of Flash: Fastest Man Alive #2) Bart Allen. What I think would be a good idea, so that Walter and other simular characters don't get left out in the cold, is to have a section for unoffical/alternate reality/substitute/possible future Flashes.--Cnjartist 17:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree that walter West should be included in the Other Flashes section or at least somewhere on the page but definitely not in the main Flashes sectionw ith Jay, Barry, Wally, and Bart. He was a member of the Justice League and worked with the Titans during Wally West's time away. He was referred to on the wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Justice_League_members as Dark Flash. He needs to have a small write up on here. To not include him in soem small manner woudl be ridiculous.--Brianmccollum (talk) 20:04, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

older comments

Is that section on Jay Garrick correct? He derived his powers from breathing "vapors" of hard water? Folks, vapor equals steam. And hard water is what makes it hard to get clothes clean downstream from the refinery. That's like gaining powers from being bitten by a spider while a radio is active nearby. Maybe it was "heavy water" instead, although that's hardly more impressive.

Yes, it's correct. Flash Comics #1 does indeed list the cause of Jay's super speed as "hard water". The writer may have meant "heavy water", but that's how it wound up in the text. No more ridiculous than the Whizzer getting superspeed from an infusion of mongoose blood. --khaosworks 06:26, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It's since been retconned into "heavy water," simply because the "hard water" angle is so flimsy. The section needs an update. Canonblack 21:40, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Few points, "lightning" doesn't travel anywhere as fast as light, look it up. Light travels around 186,000 miles per sec and lightning 60,000 miles per sec. Light's lot faster.

Speed of "thought" is only around 30 m/s, so it's not that fast. Yes, electrical impulses do travel faster, but they're not considered to be "thought". It's not greater than speed of light, that's for sure. 62.248.150.20 (talk) 14:29, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

It's a comic book, for crying out loud. Stan Lee had Bruce Banner become the Hulk from gamma ray radiation, even though gamma rays would never do that. You have to suspend disbelief, or consider that maybe science is different in the comic book world. Science proves Superman could never exist, but you can assume that science is different in the DC Universe. Besides, everything you're saying is original research. If someone of notability published a paper on the science behind the Flash, you could add things from that paper into this article under a "Science of the Flash" section or whatever, but until that happens, everything said is original research, and thus has no place on Wikipedia. Anakinjmt (talk) 15:26, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Film

I definatly remember seeing a Flash film. Looked to be made in the 70s or 80s. Why is there no mention of it?

Because it doesn't exist. You're probably remembering The Wizard of Speed and Time? --khaosworks 11:47, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

He may be remembering the pilot for the 1990 TV series starring John Wesley Shipp. It aired originally in a two hour time slot as a standalone film before the series launched. During the series run, it was repackaged as a two-part episode. After cancellation, only the pilot was available on VHS, leading many to believe that it was a direct-to-video movie. Canonblack 21:40, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

There really is a Flash film ,saw it more than 15 yrs ago.It shows flash gaining his powers in a lab accident.movie also shows flash getting a knife wound.--203.122.61.29 06:02, 20 December 2005 (UTC)Guliver 11:32 dec 20,2005

That's the pilot for the TV series. --khaosworks (talk• contribs) 07:16, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

I also remember this film, I rented it and seen it many times as a child far away from the USA, could it be the pilot? it looked like a full plot to me. Still this would explain why i cant find it on many movie database sites. The only clear picture i remember is the hero running after a bus, after the accident, then overcoming the bus, and then realizing hes running on water. Can anyone confirm there wasnt such film but its the pilot? Mpicco

Impulse

Since Bart has taken up the mantle of Kid Flash, thereby being the heir apparent to Flash shouldnt there be a section about him in this page? I would write one but I guess I want to make sure that wasn't an argument already had and that I wouldnt be stepping on any toes.--AjaxSerix 14:30, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

• • Well, Bart already has his own page. I don't think we need a whole section about him on the page. It would be interesting to have an article on the future Flashes, though. No mention of John Fox(Comics) in the article. (Bart, Iris West II, John, etc.)

Toffile 14:49, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

No need for it. There's a Kid Flash article already. Once there you'll see links to three different articles: Wally's, Iris's and Bart's. Lesfer ☎ 19:54, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Creation science

Can somebody include who created Jay, Barry, et al.? ("You're really not Barry, are you?") Trekphiler 09:58, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

The creators are listed in Jay's, Barry's and Wally's articles. Lesfer ☎ 12:43, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

DVD

Don't forget to put in the main article the release(jan/10/06) of the tv series on DVD.

Powers and abilities

In the Flash's most recent race with Superman, two things were revealed. A.) Wally can outrun Superman, and that it is not a competition anymore. B.) That Wally, too can vibrate through solid objecst, (without making them explode). I feel the page should reflect that.

Which race? If you're thinking the one post-Blitz, he can't vibrate through objects. I think you're referring to when Superman grabs him, but I think it's more that he shook free, rather than go through him. Also, the powers and abilities are more of a general section, made to reflect all 3 Flashes, not just Wally. However a mention might be good.--Toffile 01:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

In the novel by Mark Schultz, "Stop Motion", Wally learns to vibrate through objects without destroying them and to run faster than light. The speed of all of the Flashes is explained as moving between quantum states rather than between points in space. Of course, one may object that a novel is not cannonical. Good book, though. Rick Norwood 13:17, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I would like to point out that in worlds finest comics 198 Flash runs faster than superman. Lightwhip

--I am surprised no one listed speed healing, so I threw in a blurb about it - someone clean it up please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.94.96.31 (talk) 19:17, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Dan DeDio

I just noticed. First, we had Stan the Man and Roy the Boy, now we have Dan the God. Rick Norwood 20:04, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

The Fastest Man Alive

I wanted to start a thread, discussing who will be in the new series. The following is my rationale for the Wally West - Flash to be featured in [[The Flash: The Fastest Man Alive]]: David Goyer is currently writing a script treatment featuring Wally as the Flash; featured art of the next JLA series in the February Wizard issue showcased Wally; Wally has a longer publishing history than Barry,(Kid Flash - Flash, over 40 years), as opposed to Barry's mere 30 years. - ss

Nah, I think it's Bart. Superboy-Prime stated that the speedsters held him for years under a red sun, meaning that Bart could now be old enough. it could explain Robin's pause in TT#34 when talking about Bart. The similaries to Barry's costume could be Bart's tribute to his grandfather. And wouldn't it be just like DC to have Wally's fate mirror that of Barry by going into the future with his wife and twins? CovenantD 17:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I think it's probably too early to know exactly who the new Flash will be. Dan DiDio has been quoted as saying the Flash that appears in Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #1 may not be the Flash that stars in the book. There's a strong chance it could be Bart, but we know Jay Garrick is still around (and there was talk that Goyer's movie would be about Jay) and both Wally and Bart's fates are currently unknown.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.100.108 (talk • contribs)

Although, I agree that Wally may be in the future, possibley along with Bart, Robin's "pause" was followed by "kind of retired" which seem to be similar to inactive. In the March Wizard issued, Bart was the character to watch, because Dido stated he wasn't fully invested in the superhero biz, and could easily leave it behind. -ss

It's definitly Bart. In an interview on comicfoundy.com, the new series writers Danny Bilson and Paul DeMeo had said that Bart is the new Flash.[1]--Cnjartist 16:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Related characters

Now that somebody has created a Fictional speedsters category, this entire list is redundant. I'm separating it out into it's own List of fictional speedsters. CovenantD 01:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

John Fox

Hey, I was wondering if any of the other major Comic book buffs can get a mention of John Fox in there. John Fox (although breifly mentioned) was a future version of the flash from the 25th century. He donned a blue and black costume. Any mention of it would be awesome. Thanks! 75.3.49.181 19:57, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I came in here to mention Fox, as well as Jesse Quick. Should we really say only four characters serve as the Flash, when two more serve for a notable period of time? --Chris Griswold 12:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm all for including them, as well as the smattering of other future Flashes, Lady Flash, et al. --Joe Sewell 16:46, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

As I mention up at the very, very top (the Walter West entery) there should be a section for unoffical/substitue/alternate timeline/possible future Flashes. This way, John Fox, Walter West, Jesse Quick and all the others can at least get acknowledged in some way. The one caveat I would sugest is to keep the list to characters who have appeared in one way or another in the DC Universe and to include the book and issue number(s) that they appeared in (if alternate timeline/future) or were using the Flash name (unoffical/substitue). Any of the Elsewhere books, novels, other media (like tv & movies) should get listed somewhere else. --Cnjartist 17:59, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Faster than a speeding calendar

Can somebody confirm the cover date of Showcase 4? Daniels' DC Comics has it Sept. (Or maybe I noted it wrong?) Trekphiler 10:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

It was dated October 1956. Furthermore it was a bi-monthly title with the first 4 issues being Apr, June, Aug, Oct so there is no September issue. STFmaryville 10:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

For Front Picture

I was wondering if this would be a better front picture: Image:The FlashII.JPG

That might be better, Flash should be in motion. Finite 21:30, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The Alex Ross art of Barry for this article is similar to the image (from the waist-up, flat smile) used for Barry's article. STFmaryville 10:53, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Movie

The whole movie section is kinda "clunky". Could someone spruce it up a bit?

Also, there's a lot of "crystal ball" language in there and not a lot of solid information, outside of the fact that the movie is in a beginning stage of development (especially considering no one has been cast in the title role officially), so short of that, speculating a release date on a movie that hasn't even begun filming yet seems a little silly. Wayman975 20:52, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Smallville referrence

In the Smallville referrence, it says that it's "unknown" whether Bart Allen will grow up to resemble either version of the Flash, except that there's a version by the name of BART ALLEN. Where's the mystery here? It's pretty obvious that Bart Allen is going to remain Bart Allen.

Do you suppose someone can kind of edit that? -Emhilradim 02:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I was actually thinking of doing so. Currently, it says: "The Bart Allen version appeared on the television show, Smallville, on January 18, 2007, as the crimefighter, Impulse." I don't think that at any point, BA - as he is referred to in the series, has fought any crime whatsoever (except forcountering Luthor's plans in 33.1, which essentially amounts to corporate espionage). In fact, wasn't he something of a petty criminal to begin with? As well, was he referred to as Impulse in the series? there is a referencein the Smallville article that references Bart Allen as "IMPULSE", which is technically inaccurate. There is no Barry Allen in the Smallville universe, and it seems clear that Bart is to become the one and only Flash. Gi ve me some feedback, and then we can edit the article accordingly. :) Arcayne 19:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

In Justice, Oliver specifically refers to his code name as "Impulse". Smallville cannot use the name "the Flash" because of the film that David Goyer is working on; it is the same reason behind them not being able to have Bruce Wayne appear on the show as a young adult. I don't know about Barry Allen, but Bart Allen intitially started out as "Impulse", and didn't become "The Flash" until he was an adult. But, you are right in the fact that Bart has never fought crime, and the term "crime fighter" shouldn't apply to him, at least they have never shown him fighting crime or mentioned it. Bignole 20:03, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

List

Hey dudes just started work on List of superheroes named The flash I figure it's pretty useful to have a list of all of them, including kryad, Blaine etc. i welcome your comments and help getting this article up to scratch. Lightwhip 10:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Hacked?

Came to this page and all I saw was the phrase "Drunken Weasel" repeated over and over. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.232.156.120 (talk) 06:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC).

as did I

thought I would mention that it looks like someone changed the beggining of the article stating "The Flash's real identity is Daniel Sandler. He is much faster than Zachary Szames." this is obviously a joke by someone I hope someone reads this and fixes it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.149.138.145 (talk) 00:58, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Female Flash

Is there a female 'version' of this character? I can't find out conclusively from the articles. Is Fury similar or does she have other powers that detract from her ability to move fast? Or can she even move similarly fast (as the Flash)? Mr.bonus 15:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

At the end of one issue of Wally West's run one of the Russian speedsters dons the Flash costume. The next issue she hits on him and he sets her straight. After that she disappears until many many issues later as a villain again.

Jesse Quick went by the name Flash for a short time. --17:58, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

http://www.hyperborea.org/flash/christina.html Maybe this one?Brian Boru is awesome 19:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

There's a female Flash in Kingdom Come, although she looks more like a Kid Flash. Doczilla 04:58, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I believe that the annotations of KC have always had her as "Kid Flash II", from Waid and Ross on down. - J Greb 06:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Queen

I always thought their song "Flash" is referencing this creature. Is it not?

No, i think Queen's Flash is about Flash Gordon.

That's correct. Queen's song Flash (song) was the theme song for the movie Flash Gordon (film). Dugwiki 22:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Removed reference to 'The Dukes of Hazzard', Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane's basset hound

FYI I removed the reference to 'The Dukes of Hazzard', Sheriff Rosco P. Coltrane's basset hound "Flash". There was no indication in the associated article indicating that the dog's name had anything at all to do with the comic book character. It's quite possible the name has nothing to do with "The Flash". Of course, if someone can find verifiable information that Rosco's dog was specifically named after the comic book character, feel free to readd the info with citation. Dugwiki 22:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

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Merge from List of superheroes named The Flash

Well it's the same info as this article except this is written better. --EXV // + @ 05:35, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

• I'd vote to delete the other article completely. All the information is duplicated in this one. Spanneraol 23:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

• Merge - this character list does include quick bio's of other characters that should be included. 66.109.248.114 19:40, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
• Merge the list into this article. That list adds nothing to justify its separate existence. Doczilla 08:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
• Merge unique characters who lack their own article under an 'other Flashes' section, thoroughly delete anything for characters having their own articles. ThuranX 20:24, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
• Merge - replicated information and the bit that isn't can easily be slotted in here. (Emperor 00:59, 6 July 2007 (UTC))
• Merge --get rid of duplicated material A gx7 01:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
• Merge - pretty much for the above reasons. Mostly duplicate info, and little other than that. Duggy 1138 07:45, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
• Merge - seems unanimous, do it! --Jamdav86 16:34, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Flash Ring

I was skimming the article and there seems to be little reference to the Flash ring. As I recall, in addition to being the house for the costume of Barry, Wally and Bart, the ring also served a one of the metaphysical mediums between Linda and Wally that helped to anchor him to her, I believe shown in the "Dead Heat" storyline (I'm not sure though). If an editor with a stronger Flash background were to include mention of the ring and it's uses under maybe power and ablities and equipment (with possible inclusion of the treadmill) the quality of the article may be improved. 66.109.248.114

i edited your article here. it's Linda and Wally, not Barry. Teen Titan

Questions about location of article

Question: Should this article remain at Flash (comics)? Granted, most of the time when people think about Flash in comics, they think about The Flash, but there is Flash Thompson, who is a Spider-Man character, and definitely in comics. Since there are different Flashes in comics (not the superhero), shouldn't this be at Flash (DC Comics) or Flash (superhero)? Anakinjmt 01:43, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Flash Books

I'm working on short stories about Flash:

Wally West: THE FLASH FLASHPOINT

Bart Allen: IMPULSE KID FLASH KID FLASHPOINT THE NEW FLASH

Hunter Zoloman: ZOOM

Bart Allen Clone: INERTIA

--Jlaflasher (talk) 00:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC) JLAFLASHER

And your point would be...what, you think they should be included in the article? Until published...no. Anakinjmt (talk) 15:28, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Charming. A random IP decides to attack me. How...juvenile. Anakinjmt (talk) 20:50, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Teleporter

Although I had not added the cat to the various Flashes, I saw that they were removed, I wanted to discuss other's interpretations of the Flash's powers. Recalling Crisis and Zero Hour; Barry goes back in time appearing a different points/people before ultimatly becoming the lightning bolt that gave him his powers; Wally went back in time to be the "inpirational uncle" that he recalled as a child. Both of these instances appear that the characters arrived in a different time and position from which they originated, which in my mind would be the break the space/time continueum thus teleportation. This is not a typical interpretation of their powers and feedback would be appreciated. -66.109.248.114 (talk) 00:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC).

FWIW...

Phasing and super speed, the primary stichk of the Flashes, don't imply teleportation except by misdirection.

Beyond that... time travel may involve a type of teleportation based on the character concept. Again, with the Flashes the bulk of the stories bear out that the time travel is an extension of the super speed and it is actual travel taking subjective time. Taking particular examples where nothing is stated, one way or the other, is assuming a power not stated. With the specifics cited:

• Barry's final run in Crisis is just that, a run. From the story - He's trying to disrupt the Anti-Monitor's by circling at ever increasing speed. The result of his running and the nature of the power source is that he intersects random point in time and space. It's also useful to note that the different POVs of those intersections have the Flash appearing differently — static before the reveal, running diffing it.
• Wally inspiring himself is a bit odd. The story I'm recalling dealt with someone else moving Wally back in time (JLA/WildCATs). Could you expand on the story you're referencing?

- J Greb (talk) 23:23, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Fully aware that this is 100% splitting hairs conversation. I understand that primary power is speed; even if time travel is an extension of speed, there a some powers which can inferred derived from those powers; specifically in the case of durability and superstrength.

Barry's final run from crisis was not limited to crisis storyline. Once Barry's run started to intercect at different points of time in a non linear fashion, it could be considered teleportation.

Wally in Flash #0, after creating an inverted energy vortex (Zero Hour), runs through the speed force and through time ending in Center City to meet an 8yo self.

The running itself from point A->B precludes teleportation in the same time table; however one the two went back in time to different points it think it qualifies. Barry and Wally may not have disappeared in a puff of sulfury smoke or blinked like a Japanesse fan boy, but extremem effort should not discount the end result of their actions. -66.109.248.114 (talk) 03:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC).

The salient point I was making was "actual travel taking subjective time". Teleportation is bing, done. A "no time elapsed" for the 'porter.

The time travel, and the dimension shifting, that feature in Flash stories include the element of the Flash making a journey taking some degree of time. - J Greb (talk) 03:31, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Infobox image

This is what the image - File:Flash Pack.jpg - we currently have covers:

• Basic costume design of the Golden Age version of the Flash.
• Basic costume design primarily associated with the Silver Age and "modern" Flashes.
• Basic costume design primarily associated with the Silver Age and "modern" Kid Flashes.
• Artwork the is done in a reasonably "neutral" comic book art style.

Of those, the one thing that is a stretch is the inclusion of the Kid Flash design - it isn't a topic directly covered within this article.

Replacing that image though should be done with an eye to what the primary topic of the article is and what the primary function of the infobox image should be.

The primary topic of this article is "The Flash" as a comic book, comic book character, and comic book plot element. Right now, most of that is covered in 7 other article - 2 for comic books, 4 for characters, and 1 for "In other media". The remainder - the "Alternate versions" and the in story "Legacy" - were returned here as not really long enough to justify being split off.

The primary function of the infobox image is to provide a readily identifiable visual cue as to the article contents. The best fit for that function would be to illustrate the most immediately identified character design(s) for "The Flash". That would be the red shirt, blue pants and Mercury helm and the red suit with yellow belt, boots, and trim.

If an image includes characters that aren't "The Flash", it isn't a good replacement. If it is just one character, it's trading to keep the same weakness of the current image. If it is more, it is increasing that weakness. And for clarity sake: "aren't 'The Flash'" includes cases where the character has never been "The Flash" or the character had been "The Flash" but is shown in a different costume.

- J Greb (talk) 06:39, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Hard water vs Heavy water

Is there a reference stating when the "hard water" to "heavy water" vapor source of superpowers retcon occurred? -- 111.84.119.217 (talk) 13:38, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

The Dates in This Paragraph Must Be Wrong, at Least the First One

ay Garrick was a popular character in the 1950s, supporting both Flash Comics and All-Flash Quarterly (later published bi-monthly as simply All-Flash); co-starring in Comic Cavalcade; and being a charter member of the Justice Society of America, the first superhero team, whose adventures ran in All Star Comics. With superheroes' post-war decline in popularity, Flash Comics was canceled with issue #104 (1949). The Justice Society's final Golden Age story ran in All Star Comics #57 (1951; the title itself continued, as All Star Western).--24.241.6.149 (talk) 00:25, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Super-strength? 1/2MVsquared

Doesn't his speed imply he would be as powerful, in the sense of kinetic energy, as any other Hero? Or is that even if his punches were delivered extremely fast, his hands are not structurally strong enough to actually, for example, punch through a wall?

Nonetheless, he would be many times stronger than a regular human, it seems.--Jrm2007 (talk) 14:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 March 2018

I wanted to change the description of Dark Flash (and name) from: "Dark Flash is a Doppelganger of The Flash from Earth-X. His true identity has not yet been revealed. The Dark Flash is scheduled to be a villain for the crossover event between The Flash, Supergirl, Green Arrow and The Legends. He isn't a Flash from the future that becomes the good Flash, He is just a version." To: "Blitzkrieg is a doppelganger of The Flash from Earth-X. His true identity has not yet been revealed. Blitzkrieg is scheduled to be a villain for the CW Seed series Freedom Fighters: The Ray. He is voiced by Scott Whyte."

I wanted to change Dark Flash to an updated version of the character as well as update the name to Blitzkrieg, which is his actual name. It states that the "Dark Flash" will be introduced in the Crisis on Earth-X crossover, even though in said crossover, "Dark Flash" was not used, and it was Eobard Thawne (aka Reverse Flash) that was used instead. I also wanted to change the category it's under to "Different Flashes" from "Others to carry the mantle of the Flash". My source is the Wikipedia article for Freedom Fighters: The Ray, as well as the show itself which started airing a few months ago. Theflash56 (talk) 06:53, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:01, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Blaine Allen, Jace Allen

Descriptions of these two versions of the Flash need their own section separate from Sela Allen. Additionally, the image of Blaine Allen underneath this Kyraid should be moved to this section as well. TheMeaninglessMrNomer (talk) 21:07, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 28 August 2020

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The result of the move request was: Consensus to move to Flash (DC Comics character): Although this was never the intension for the RM discussion, consensus has formed here for this article to be moved to the above target taking into consideration the opposes (non-admin closure) Megan☺️ ^{Talk to the monster} 10:41, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

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Flash (comics) → Flash (character) – Proper designation, per WP:NCC. Darkknight2149 10:19, 28 August 2020 (UTC)—Relisting.  ~ Amkgp 💬 15:15, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose. Seems too vague, especially since Flash (G.I. Joe) is a page. Nohomersryan (talk) 17:45, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
• Move to Flash (DC Comics) to disambiguate between other characters named Flash in other comics and other media, as well as Flash comics titles like Flash Comics, The Flash (comic book), The Flash (DC Rebirth), etc. Fundamentally, this article is not about a single character, but acts as a WP:BROADCONCEPT covering the superhero identity and publication history in DC Comics. -- Netoholic @ 19:47, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose per User:Nohomersryan. Also "(comics)" seems to be a standard disambiguation for comics characters. JIP | Talk 21:50, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
  • @JIP: Per WP:NCC, it's absolutely not. Darkknight2149 21:04, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose - Flash Gordon. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:50, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
• Move to Flash (DC Comics character). I get the nominator's point, but as shown above, "character" is ambiguous. Also, Flash (DC Comics) could be considered ambiguous with titles such as Flash Comics and the other options presented above. "DC Comics character" cuts out all the ambiguity while still complying to WP:NCC to some extent. Steel1943 (talk) 17:09, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
• Move to Flash (DC Comics character) per Steel. --Gonnym (talk) 10:15, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
• Move to Flash (DC Comics character) per Steel. Dimadick (talk) 18:06, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 13 January 2021

31.124.224.174 (talk) 14:06, 13 January 2021 (UTC)support the flash <death>

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. RudolfRed (talk) 17:14, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2022

i alawys liked the the fash his fast he time tarvel samrt strong vorteres he my favorteie super hero — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.189.117.24 (talk) 15:23, 29 April 2022 (UTC) a tv show made by someone named barry allen actully created

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2022

Under § Wally West, please change Wally, his wife, and twins (which twins?) to Wally, his wife, and their twins. 96.8.24.95 (talk) 04:47, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Also change Shortly after to Shortly thereafter, as it currently reads as if it’s referring to a time after The New 52 was launched rather than stating when it was launched. —96.8.24.95 (talk) 04:55, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Last one, under § Bart Allen, please add a comma to and, as a result, or else the existing comma makes no sense. —96.8.24.95 (talk) 04:59, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

 Done Actualcpscm (talk) 23:40, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2022

At the end of § Wally West, please replace

After a series of events, Wally is restored as the central character of The Flash series, becoming the primary Scarlet Speedster again since The Flash #771 (2021), where Wally's adventures as the Fastest Man Alive are currently published, and returned to his main red and gold Flash costume.

with

After a series of events culminating in The Flash #771 (2021), Wally is restored as the central character of the series and returned to his main red and gold Flash costume.

151.132.206.250 (talk) 16:50, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please explain how your suggested change is an improvement over the current revision. Colonestarrice (talk) 04:01, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Hat note

Hat note {{redirect|The Flash||Flash (disambiguation)}} should become {{Redirect|The Flash|the 2023 American superhero film|The Flash (film)|other uses|Flash (disambiguation)}}. --2001:1C06:19CA:D600:BDA7:A90B:769:D20D (talk) 04:48, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

 Done: Many thanks for your suggestion! Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (talk) 23:07, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Merge proposal

I propose merging the Kid Flash content into the Flash article. The information about Kid Flash can be effectively integrated into the Flash article as a separate section. Currently, the Kid Flash article primarily contains content that seems more like fan-created and forks material than anything else. Lililolol (talk) 22:01, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 10 October 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. per discussion below. Best, (closed by non-admin page mover) R.B. 07:28, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

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Flash (DC Comics character) → The Flash – Per WP:NATURALDIS, naturally disambiguated titles (in this case, The Flash) are generally preferable to parenthetical disambiguation (the current article title). While WP:THE usually discourages use of a "the" at the beginning of article titles, this RFC there has concluded that exceptions are allowed in the event that it would provide natural disambiguation, which is the case for this article.

In any case, this title is probably the best option for this article. This character is almost exclusively referred to as "the Flash", never just "Flash". The main comic series is called The Flash, and there are two different major television series and a movie called The Flash, not just Flash. Plus, The Flash already redirects here so this article is already the primary topic for the term "The Flash". Ladtrack (talk) 04:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

• Reluctant oppose. This is the same situation as (the) Joker, who is located at Joker (character) and has had no serious support for including the definite article. That being said, there are cases of characters whose pages start with "The", for instance The Doctor, so I'd be open to changing my position. O.N.R. ^(talk) 04:51, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

  That one is a little more complicated because that character is at least sometimes referred to without the "the" unlike the Flash but to be honest if this passes I am considering trying to get that one changed too. I would have to think about it but it is at least a possibility. I had to start somewhere and I think this character has a stronger case than that one so I decided to do this first. I appreciate the desire for consistency but I would much rather it be consistent the other way. Ladtrack (talk) 18:32, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support per THE.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:48, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support per WP:THE, and considering similar examples like The Beatles or The Who. I don't think The Joker is the same situation due to the Joker playing card. Even if moved, it should go to The Joker (character). However, nothing I can think of is also called "The Flash" as a proper noun. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:45, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
• Support per WP:THE per above comments. Randy Kryn (talk) 01:19, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose... the TV show, the comic book and the movie all use "The Flash" so this article should make clear that the article is about the character and not any of those other things. Spanneraol (talk) 13:07, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per Spanneraol. "This character is almost exclusively referred to as "the Flash", never just "Flash"." WRONG. Have you ever read the comic? Or watched the TV shows? Or the movie? --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 13:45, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I'm the one who wrote that statement, I have in fact read or watched most of the things you listed, and I would mostly stand by it. I probably should have put a caveat, but I didn't, so I'll do it here. I should have said that this character is almost exclusively referred to as the Flash in the third person. This is because calling him "the Flash" in the first person is really weird sounding grammatically, and not because just Flash is the correct or common name of the character. See: "thank you for saving me, Flash" vs "thank you for saving me, the Flash". This is the same principle applied to the main character of Doctor Who, who is referred to exclusively as the Doctor in the third person, but as just Doctor often in the first person. Note that that article is currently at The Doctor.

If you want evidence that this character is almost always called "The Flash" in the third person, look at the titles on these websites: DC Comics website, Britannica. The fact that the aforementioned TV shows, movie, and comic book are all called "THE Flash", and not just "Flash", is also suggestive of how the character is usually referenced. Honestly I don't know how else to prove it. Ladtrack (talk) 03:28, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Commment: Support this account (see my !vote on the move elsewhere) as a once avid reader of The Flash comics. Yes, I have read the comics, as I think has Ladtrack. But ironically and on the evidence, there's doubt in my mind as to whether Khajidha has read them. I'm sorry if that is harsh. Andrewa (talk) 06:04, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

• Support move as proposed. The character is generally known as The Flash when others discuss him. Andrewa (talk) 06:08, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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