Talk:The Fourth Estate (painting)/GA1
Latest comment: 3 years ago by Jburlinson in topic GA Review
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Reviewer: Jburlinson (talk · contribs) 14:04, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
I'll be glad to review this nomination. Thanks for your patience. I should have an initial review done within 5 days.--Jburlinson (talk) 14:04, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
Overall, this is an excellent article that only needs a few touchups on the references to attain GA status.--Jburlinson (talk) 11:31, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (reference section):
b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- (1) A reliable source is needed for this sentence, especially since it contains quoted material: "Thanks to the various drawings, preparatory studies, and "photographs of the models in pose," Pellizza was able to draft the definitive version of Fiumana in July 1895". (2) A reliable source is needed for this sentence fragment, especially since it contains quoted material: "Pellizza decided in 1898 to make the work for a third time on "the greatest demonstration that the Italian proletariat could boast between the 19th and 20th century." (3) A reliable source is needed for this sentence; otherwise, it appears to be an editorial perception or OR: "These figures turn their gazes in other directions, suggesting they have complete control of the situation." (4) A reliable source is needed for these two sentences; otherwise, they appear to be an editorial perception or OR: "On the one hand, this compositional solution recalls classical friezes. On the other, it evokes the realistic scene of a street demonstration." ( 5) I believe there needs to be a reliable source for the identifications in the "Models" section. --Jburlinson (talk) 11:31, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- Will reply shortly (1-2 days) with recommended changes.—Wingedserif (talk) 21:56, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
- Reply status: 1.
Doing...; 2. Doing...; 3. 
Done xentence deleted because couldn't find source to support; 4. Doing... Found citation to support first sentence but not second, yet; 5. Doing... Added citations to news source that identifies the models and some of their biographic details. Hoping to find another source to support the other model bio information. —Wingedserif (talk) 19:09, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- I'm hoping to have access to the source I need to verify those claims next week; will update then. —Wingedserif (talk) 01:39, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- That's fine. I'll keep the review open until you've had time to finish up. Thanks for working so hard on this article.--Jburlinson (talk) 14:03, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- 1. Done: In the cited 1998 source, I found a photograph by Pellizza of the models posing for the composition, rm quote marks since I couldn't find the phrase (I hope this isn't OR?); 2. Done: found direct Italian quote to support this; 3. Done: see previous reply; 4. Done: same source supported both claims, put exact quote in R template; 5. Done: Added above-mentioned news source, but also additional citations where I could find them in the Scotti books. —Wingedserif (talk) 18:10, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- 1.
- That's fine. I'll keep the review open until you've had time to finish up. Thanks for working so hard on this article.--Jburlinson (talk) 14:03, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- I'm hoping to have access to the source I need to verify those claims next week; will update then. —Wingedserif (talk) 01:39, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Reply status: 1.
- Will reply shortly (1-2 days) with recommended changes.—Wingedserif (talk) 21:56, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
- (1) A reliable source is needed for this sentence, especially since it contains quoted material: "Thanks to the various drawings, preparatory studies, and "photographs of the models in pose," Pellizza was able to draft the definitive version of Fiumana in July 1895". (2) A reliable source is needed for this sentence fragment, especially since it contains quoted material: "Pellizza decided in 1898 to make the work for a third time on "the greatest demonstration that the Italian proletariat could boast between the 19th and 20th century." (3) A reliable source is needed for this sentence; otherwise, it appears to be an editorial perception or OR: "These figures turn their gazes in other directions, suggesting they have complete control of the situation." (4) A reliable source is needed for these two sentences; otherwise, they appear to be an editorial perception or OR: "On the one hand, this compositional solution recalls classical friezes. On the other, it evokes the realistic scene of a street demonstration." ( 5) I believe there needs to be a reliable source for the identifications in the "Models" section. --Jburlinson (talk) 11:31, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- a (reference section):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
Excellent work on this article. Happy to rate it as GA. Congratulations to all who contributed.--Jburlinson (talk) 10:53, 13 August 2021 (UTC)