Talk:The Gruffalo/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 15:44, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

I'll have a go at this. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:44, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for picking it up! Unexpectedlydian^♯4talk^‽ 09:05, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Comments

This is a carefully-written and well-cited article and I have only the most minor of comments.

• The audio file needs to be updated, but that's not a GA matter.
  • Yep I noticed that. Definitely not my area of expertise! I may drop a note on the relevant WikiProject page.

• "also" is used 15 times in the article. Not sure any of them are necessary.
  • Thanks - reduced to 4 now!

• "who do not know how or are learning how to read." - the first "how" is not needed.
  • Removed.

• "In order to cerate" -> "create".
  • Fixed.

• "The name of the Gruffalo itself is, Burke writes," - this follows a chunk on exactly the topic of the choice of name, so this comes across a little oddly. I suggest we have instead "In Burke's view, the name is".
  • Thank you, that works better.

• "not introduced into general circulation and sold" -> "not introduced into general circulation, but were sold".
  • Fixed.

• I'd advise you to archive the rather ephemeral-looking weblinks such as to Forestry England and Whinlatter Forest as these are likely to be chopped (to coin a phrase) when the next thing comes along.
  • Good plan, I've added an archive link. If I get a moment I might go through the rest of the links and archive them as well.

• The Whinlatter Forest ref needs a publisher.
  • Have added the website name.

• The Ardkinglas ref needs a date.
  • Done.

• The refs to WorldCat should be replaced with {{cite book}} and {{cite media}} refs directly to the products concerned. You can use the parameter "id=" for the CD's catalogue number.
  • Thanks, have changed them.

• The prizes and awards don't fit well in "Background and publication history". Suggest you have a section "Awards" or similar.
  • I've changed the "Legacy and merchandise" section to "Legacy", and added an "Awards" subheading, since I thought it fit best in there.

• "Background and publication history" isn't a coherent section, as the "and" reveals. Suggest we have a section on the author (a very brief potted biography) and a section on the book's creation; and it would make more sense to have these up at the top, as they come before the book itself. You might structure these sections like this, for example:

1. Context

1.1 Author

1.2 Creating the book

(existing Plot, Themes, etc)

Publication history

All that will leave "Publication history" where it is now.

• • I have re-jigged the sections around as you've suggested and added a little extra background on Scheffler and Donaldson.

• I suggest you add a sentence on translations; that can go in the publication history, unless you get enough material for a separate section. I wouldn't list all the languages; it's enough to say "33 languages including Korean and Swahili" or whatever. This is one case where citing WorldCat is probably the right thing to do, unless you can find a better source (a recent newspaper article would be ideal).
  • The Guardian reported in 2020 that it's in over 50 languages, so have used that reference. I've find some articles about more interesting ones: Cornish, Scots and Latin.

Summary

This is an excellent article and will make a worthy GA. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:03, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

• Thank you! It was a fun one to write. I've responded to all your comments so let me know what you think! Unexpectedlydian^♯4talk^‽ 14:14, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Super, it's a GA. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:21, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.