Talk:The Hamptons
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Poverty in the Hamptons
editWhy didn't the author pu Quogue in the list of Hamlets/Villages. It is right in-between Westhampton Beach and Hampton Bays, which are both on the list. I would know because I live there. It is most certainly in the Hamptons.
, Montauk isn't in the hamptons? what about quogue? (Any time some TV show says they have something "in the hamptons" it's in quogue)
- I'm sorry it most certainly is not. Montauk maybe but Quogue no. Quogue is not a hampton.
And this fails to mention that there are still many many middle class to lower class people living in the hamptons (especially hampton bays - called "the poor hampton").
Grievre 19:52, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Someone should tone down the paragraph about people who are forced to move out due to the government's fear of allowing affordable housing. It's POV. Rhobite 04:51, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
- This was obviously written by someone against the fact that people are being forced to move out, It is POV. 24.90.128.71 02:05, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
It completely fails to mention the abject poverty, there are immigrant communities living in tent cities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ForrestFire11 (talk • contribs) 03:41, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
- It is not the purpose of this article to mention poverty. --AmE (talk) 04:47, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Literature about the Hamptons
edit- The Great Gatsby, which was listed in this section, is not about the Hamptons.
- Seconded. Deleting the reference. J1.grammar natz (talk) 00:13, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Migrant Workers
editEven in supposedly affluent East Hampton, there are large numbers of migrant workers from countries such as Colombia and Ecuador, who move there to take advantage of the construction industry spawned by the presence of the upper-class. Huh? supposedly ? affluent. Firstly, its no secret that the Hamptons are extremely affluent, not supposedly. Secondly, It comes as no surprise to me as someone living in an affluent area that there are migrant workers. As in most parts of the US the migrant workers flock to the affluent areas for several reasons. One, there is rarely a lack of construction work both homes and commercial. Two, generally speaking affluent people employ other people do to yard work, landscaping, maintenance work etc. And these are jobs that today many Americans wont do. Three, there are usually, restaurants, malls, hotels etc. where migrant workers can usually find employment. Mac Domhnaill 23:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Article reads like a travel brochure
editThere's good information in this article, but the tone is that of a travel brochure with lines like these:
Southampton has a decidedly colonial feel, and its Job Lane's shopping district oozes chic.
Many oldtime fisherman continue to call Hampton Bays home. It enjoys access to Peconic and Shinnecock Bays as well as the Atlantic Ocean.
Could use a little cleanup. 216.98.197.149 00:05, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Southampton
editIt links to the English town instead of the Long Island counterpart and needs to be corrected. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Merlin33 (talk • contribs) 05:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC).
- Thanks. I have fixed it. [1] PrimeHunter 15:49, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
This particular article was slammed by Newsday on April 17, 2007 for numerous errors. Read the article. This article is clearly written by folks who don't know what they are writing and don't cite sources -- all violations of Wiki policy. This article should say nothing but that the Hamptons consist of Southampton (town), New York and East Hampton (town), New York. Everything else here is speculation. Further it's impossible to keep up with the revolving door of Hamptonites. The damage is now done. Thanks alot. Americasroof 20:33, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- The article that you refer to pointed out the following errors: 1) it suggests that Billy Joel and Martha Stewart do not have homes in the Hamptons (while Joel did sell a home in the Hamptons in 2000, as the Newsday article points out, it fails to mention that he then bought one in Sag Harbor, and is still residing and crashing cars in the Hamptons,[2] and similarly while Martha Stewart has sold one residence in the Hamptons, she still has a home in East Hampton,[3] 2) they suggest that the Wikipedia entry of the Montauk Point Lighthouse having been completed in 1792 is off by four years (well, Wiki is full of dates, and some will be wrong -- no reason to delete most of the article as you have done), and 3) they point out that while Vonnegut died on Wednesday (at 9:45, as it turns out [4], Wiki did not reflect that fact until Friday monrning (hey, not too shabby, in my opinion).
- I don't have the time to parse through your gutting of the article now (hopefully someone else does), but just glancing at what you have done it is clearly an overreaction in my point of view. I see that someone has put the towns back at least. And clearly all of the movies belong -- just follow the wiki article, to the imdb article, and the source is there. That suffices. I hope that either you or someone else will put back the material that should be reinserted.
- Thanks.--Epeefleche 07:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't South Shore (Long Island) be linked or mentioned? Badagnani (talk) 06:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
- No, it should not. --AmE (talk) 04:43, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Default Sort alphabetize
editShould be under "Hamptons" Purplebackpack89 (talk) 04:02, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
hamptons EL
editPleaes add a link to Hamptons.com (http://www.hamptons.com). The site has been in existance for over 10 years and serves as a resource for all things "Hamptons". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nbbrewer (talk • contribs) 13:34, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
- Can you expound on 'all things "hamptons"'? To me, "all things hamptons" sounds like something a spammer advertising account would say to try and get us to include a site that has previously been removed as spam. ps - Tell Liz hi for me! Syrthiss (talk) 14:19, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
- I added the website under external links. Even though it is a commercial business, it is completely appropriate for this page. EttAme (talk 00:41, 30 March 2010 (EST)
- I disagree, with WP:EL to back me up. The link has been added to the blacklist. Syrthiss (talk) 12:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Hampton Bays
editHampton Bays is part of the Hamptons. Try not to pretend like it isn't. I'm sure the people of that town are tired of it. Imnotimportant (talk) 22:55, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry Imnotimportant, but everybody I've ever talked to doesn't seem to think Hampton Bays shares the same prestige as the rest of the Hamptons, and so it isn't really part of it. I don't see how Hampton Bays is the Hamptons. I'd be happy to hear your thoughts as to why it should be included. EttAme (talk) 00:37, 30 March 2010 (EST)
Deletion
editThis article should be deleted for the following reasons:
WP:DIRECTORY
WP:BATTLE
There is no official or commonly accepted knowledge as to what "The Hamptons" are. This page will continuously be edited as different users try to edit "The Hamptons" to their own definition.
If you object, please state your reasons why. --rbn 18:08, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- The Hamptons refers to a specific, citable geographic region on Long Island. I easily found two news reports here and here that refer to the Hamptons as well as specific locales in the Hamptons. In general, if people are fighting over something then we try to resolve the dispute or block them for disruptive editing. I don't see any reason why that approach won't work here. Syrthiss (talk) 18:18, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)I don't agree with your interpretation of the linked sections of What Wikipedia is not. The article does not meet any of the points listed in that section; simply including a list does not make it a directory. The "battleground" section is concerned with user conduct rather than articles that may provoke certain user conduct (and the page history demonstrates that has not happened here anyway). If you wish, you can list the article for deletion at WP:AFD, but I have little doubt that it will be swiftly kept due to the reams of references to "The Hamptons" in modern parlance. I'm from the UK and am pretty familiar with the area due to references in popular culture such as TV shows, news articles etc. – Toon 18:20, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- I do agree, however, that we need more references to define the area itself; however even if it cannot be easily or definitely bounded would not make it unsuitable as an article. – Toon 18:23, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- First, Syrthiss, the NY post article does not define what the Hamptons are; the NY Times article also does not define what the hamptons are, it only refers to a location named "The Hamptons. Second, Toon05, I'm sorry if those linked sections don't apply. Nevertheless, I'm disappointed that this area cannot be defined as a location. I can say what it refers to, but my next door neighbor will disagree. I'd like to reach a solution. --rbn (talk) 18:42, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think the solution is to stick to what the reliable sources we find define as being "The Hamptons", and remove others as not verifiable. I had a look online, but all the NYT archive articles are behind a paywall, unfortunately. There are reams of references to "the Hamptons" though. – Toon 19:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- First, Syrthiss, the NY post article does not define what the Hamptons are; the NY Times article also does not define what the hamptons are, it only refers to a location named "The Hamptons. Second, Toon05, I'm sorry if those linked sections don't apply. Nevertheless, I'm disappointed that this area cannot be defined as a location. I can say what it refers to, but my next door neighbor will disagree. I'd like to reach a solution. --rbn (talk) 18:42, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think the situation is different than other places with names. There is no official document outlining what The Hamptons are. The Hamptons are not a census designated place, The Hamptons does not exist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by EttAme (talk • contribs) 02:19, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- "The Hamptons" are well known, nationally and internationally. No official "naming" is necessary. User:Fred Bauder Talk 10:26, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Summer colony
editThe section "Summer colony" and its usage in this article should be limited to the period prior to about 1950 when The Hamptons were geographically isolated and hosted a relatively small number of the wealthy who spent summers there in their "cottages," as they called their country estates. It was not a place for people, however rich, who had to be back in Manhattan on Monday for work. Succeeding sections with appropriate titles should cover the period after the 50s. There are probably about 3 sections that could be added, one covering the period prior to the real estate boom, the boom, and the contemporary situation. User:Fred Bauder Talk 10:26, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
East Hampton Local
editI grew up in East Hampton, as did my parents, their parents, etc. I was born in the late 50s. I grew up in paradise. My family goes back to the 1700s there. Lighthouse Keepers, Baymen, whaler, Coast Guard and more. There were some wealthy people there. They were considerate and friendly. My Dad said "old money" actually meaning they were respectful and kind. A lot of artists and writers who loved the peace and beauty as well. I remember bottle hunting in the woods, clamming with my feet, crabbing followed by a feast at Gramma's. I spent summer days at the ocean a lot. June would get busy with families arriving. September they went home. I liked the fall through spring. Hanging out with friends and family. All the stores were "Mom and Pop" ones. I knew all the owners. They knew me, I looked like my Mom. My one hope is that the local history stays in tact. I hope locals write about what it was like. Although I have many stories, I'm not quite sure if personal info should be shared. There was a book written ages ago that my Dad was in. I'll leave it there. The beauty of East Hampton isn't "all that glitters is gold" it's the local families, the Montauk Indians,the nature what truly glitters is the sea. BonacRocks (talk) 16:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
Leave the World Behind
editI don’t doubt the Hamptons is evoked but I don’t believe Leave the World Behind is technically set there, they just say Long Island. Indeed at the end they can see Manhattan which would suggest (implausibly) more something like Great Neck… 73.244.193.8 (talk) 14:40, 25 February 2024 (UTC)