Talk:The House of Asterion/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Whiteguru (talk · contribs) 03:51, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Starts GA Review; the review will follow the same sections of the Article. --Whiteguru (talk) 03:51, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

 

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Article is currently under edit from the Guild of Copy Editors.

GA Review is on hold until completion of Copy Edit.

 GA on hold       --Whiteguru (talk) 03:51, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Dhtwiki I have placed this review on hold pending the copy edit by your good self. When you complete that effort, can you kindly leave me a note here? Thank you. --Whiteguru (talk) 03:56, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, didn't receive a ping for some reason. Came here because I saw that the article was already being reviewed. I have finished my copy edit. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:28, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@Dhtwiki: I'm surprised about the ping. I arrived at the review page when your notice was 2 minutes old, so I decided to place this one on hold rather than QuickFail. Thanks for your work here. --Whiteguru (talk) 08:03, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@Whiteguru: Now, I did receive that ping. Are "u" and "Reply to" templates different in that way? I'm surprised I'm being mentioned here so early. Usually, I stop by to see how my articles are doing, with the intent of pitching in to help if there still are "prose issues"; but I'm usually not addressed early on. QuickFail? You mean this article was going to be failed? From the standpoint of its writing, I thought it was quite finished; and I had to look hard to find things to correct. It's already been at DYK, which means it's already received a going over in terms of fact checking. What am I missing? Dhtwiki (talk) 09:55, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@Dhtwiki: the pings are different, reply to gets through even if pings are turned off (whatever). QuickFail applies if there is a cleanup tag or a maintenance tag on the article when we get there. In your case, the inuse tag was sufficient to exercise discretion and wait. I am somewhat in a bind about GA reviews getting to DYK before the review is even done. I have a question out to an experienced admin - who has done the same thing on another GA review I completed recently - so I am going to be interested in his reply. I'll keep you in the loop. Cheers, --Whiteguru (talk) 10:00, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Whiteguru, thank you for taking on the review—my original plan was to wait to nominate until after the GOCE review, but I suppose my eagerness got the best of me. I appreciate your putting it on hold. By the way, this is my first GAN, so I'll do my best to promptly and thoroughly address the points you raise, but let me know if I'm making any process-related errors (like this one) along the way! Best, DanCherek (talk) 12:28, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@DanCherek: Thanks for your mighty enthusiasm; starting the review now. Cheers, --Whiteguru (talk) 03:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Starts GA Review; the review will follow the same sections of the Article. --Whiteguru (talk) 03:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

 

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Lede

1. Is it reasonably well written?

• A fulsome lede, not too much, and finishes with a most interesting quote in the light of current literature and film.

Plot summary

1. Is it reasonably well written?

• Crisp, precise summary. Not too much.

Background and publication history

1. Is it reasonably well written?

• A good exegesis of the origins of this story, and its development by Borges.
• The conflict engendered by the influence of Canto is noted.
• The publication materials are supported by Kodamma's actions.

Style

Narration

1. Is it reasonably well written?

• Encapsulates an unconventional, nonhuman narrator - (albeit with human feelings) - an excellent inclusion.

Structure

1. Is it reasonably well written?

• employed the technique of defamiliarization is an excellent observation of Borges' works.
• The story having the structure of a labyrinth is a good conundrum for the reader to realise in the act of reading. This was one of the techniques of Borges.

Major Themes

Monstrosity and humanity

1. Is it reasonably well written?

• Makes a monster out of Theseus!

Death and redemption

1. Is it reasonably well written?

• The theme of world as evil in need of redemption is well handled.

Reception

1. Is it reasonably well written?

• The technique is observed and reported.

Influence and Media

1. Is it reasonably well written?

• Noted.

See Also

1. Is it reasonably well written?

• The Outsider: a similar thematic
• Grendel: another mythological foundation.
• Both good referrals.

References

1. Is it reasonably well written?

• Noted

Sources

1. Is it reasonably well written?

• All examined. Appropriate.

 

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End Matter

1. Is it is Broad in its coverage?

• Yes, quite so.

1. Is it Verifiable with no original research?

• Yes, all elements of the article are supported by references.

1. Does the article meet notability guidelines?

• Yes, the book - reception, exegesis and literary criticism - all meet notability requirements.
• Greek mythology references (Theseus, Asterion) also meet notability requirements.

1. Does it follow WP:NPOV Neutral Point of View?

• Quite so

1. Is it stable?

• This article started life on 17 July 2005
• Since then it has had 246 edits
• Recently received attention from the DYK crowd and the Guild of Copy Editors
• (No copy edits needed!)
• In the last three months, 11,240 pages views suggesting labyrinths and mythology are popular
• Page editing has been principally devoted to the story; edit-warring and vandalism are not observed.

1. Top editors are

    * DanCherek
    * Dhtwiki 
    * Asterion
    * GabrielF
    * Spicemix

1. It is illustrated by images ?

• The image of Borges was in the public domain in its home country (Argentina) on the URAA date (1 January 1996)
• The Minotaur painting is in the public domain in its country of origin.
• The photo of Borges with Canto is in the public domain because the copyright of this photograph, registered in Argentina, has expired.
• Theseus and the Minotaur in the Labyrinth is in the public domain in the United States because it was published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January 1, 1926.
• The labyrinth image is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported
• The photo of Borges in the 1940's is in the public domain because the copyright of this photograph, registered in Argentina, has expired.

Overall

• A good analysis of a story that represents advance in experimental literature that encapsulates unconventional, nonhuman narrator
• The story as labyrinth is an important development that has been taken up by both writers, animation and film.

Conclusion

 Passed       --Whiteguru (talk) 04:28, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

@Whiteguru: Thank you for the thoughtful review! All the best, DanCherek (talk) 16:49, 19 February 2021 (UTC)