Talk:The King of Fighters XI

Article stolen?

The whole page seems to be copied from this website: http://insomnia.****ac/reviews/atomiswave/thekingoffightersxi/

(remove the ****, site seems to be blacklisted somehow) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rename200 (talk • contribs) 03:56, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Endings

The endings desciption seems to be pasted from a messageboard. Or Myspace.

Mai's abscence

I don't actually get it—Mai being angry at Terry for not telling her where Andy's whereabouts is just inexcusable. I don't know why would Mai get so angry at Terry just because Terry chose to cover his brother up. Can't Mai Shiranui at least give Andy a break? Mai's excessive obsession with Andy is getting to the point where her emotions might one day consume her... — Dark Insanity 05:04, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Dark, you speak of the Andy/Mai thing as if it's not fantasy. It's just a game compadre. Panda

true but what happened to Andy, I was a master with Andy, why he is never in king of fighters any more

The KoF page says Mai is out of it because they didn't have time. WTF is all this "oh she's angry".

Eiji isn't present since KOF 2000, and 2002 not the 95 version!

The said in the text is wrongly informed. Eiji has its appearence in KOF2000 as a secret striker. It should be informed, since it reads he doesn't appear since the 95 edition - I know he's not entirelly playable, but it's still badly infomed.

Eiji appears next to billy kane in the 2002 KOF when battling Iori

Secret strikers don't count as playable characters, I think. And please sign. I Am Magnus^talk 23:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Sammy developed this game?

And SNK Playmore only published it? I didn't know that. Is that true? Seems false...

Never heard of such a thing. Probably some Arrogant GG fanboy.

Yeah, that's pretty much bull. They used the Atomiswave arcade board, which is the same arcade system used for Guilty Gear XX and onward, as opposed to the old Neo-Geo, but it was SNK Playmore that actually developed the game. Besides, all this association between Sammy and Guilty Gear is erroneous, since Arc developed all the games and Sammy isn't even their publisher anymore. Why is it that the most militant fans are also the most ill-informed? Digital Watches 02:30, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

WP:NPOV

The section The Story of The King of Fighters XI reads as follows (comments in brackets):

Mukai, a member of a mysterious group, stole the Orochi seal. Taking advantage of all the confusion caused by it, Ash stole the powerful mirror. Everybody assumed Chizuru’s defeat, and that’s how, in between everything, he pulled the curtains down on the last King of Fighters. Time passes and everything seems to be okay in the world. However, and quite predictably, there will be a KOF Tournament. In the advent of the new tournament, new faces are handed invitations, while old faces, such as Eiji Kisaragi, return to the ring. Among the new KoF participants are Oswald, Duck King - a South Town veteran fighter himself, Momoko, and Elisabeth.. All thes fighters will find themselves in a tournament full of mysteries and secrets started by motives that they’d ignored and still participate. KOF is just about to start. (what's that sentence good for?) Behind this healthy competitive tournament hides a hidden face. Besides that, this hidden face has a lot of mixed objectives. The group that calls themselves “Past Coming people”(Literal translation). What do they really plan to do? (what kind of question is this? sounds like "play it and find out" to me…) Where would Orochi’s force finally land once the seal is finally open? (same kind of question again) Chizuru and friends lost, but would they still be able to seal Orochi? (and again) What’s Ash Crimson true plan? (…) May The King of Fighters XI begin... (advertising!)

Now tell me that's not advertising. --elias.hc 16:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Sounds to me like it was taken directly from an arcade flyer, press release, or sell sheet. The S 19:59, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

or just some hyperactive GameFAQ fanboy, but yeah, this entire article is pretty terrible. I'd suggest marking it for cleanup, not pov. --Nugneant 21:14, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I've marked the section for cleanup. --elias.hc 22:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Release Dates

Shouldn't this page list the games release dates for all the regions its going to be in? BassxForte 23:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

It should also be changed to reflect the US release, which I did. 66.193.64.161 —Preceding comment was added at 18:39, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I believe the release date for the US has changed from 10/23/07 to 11/3/07 according to GameStop.66.76.114.175 15:31, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

in gamestop it says that its been shopped yesterday here http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product_id=281818

Vandalism

Whoa, someone with a lot of free time in his hands really messed up this article. From the December 24 release date, to the Yamada thing and the revamping of teams and the 20-something new chars. Someone needs to revert this inmediately. EDIT: Whoa, that's odd, it was all magically reverted as I finished putting this comment in the page. Nevermind, and thanks to whoever fixed it. Vicius 01:40, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Looks like some jerk messed up this article again. Someone fix it please.

Vandalism Returns (11/18/07)

Someone really vandalized the article again. Someone really needs to fix this.

Why isn't there any "Reception" section in the article?

The game got fairly positive reviews including GameSpot and IGN both giving it 8.0 out of 10. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.213.13 (talk) 01:29, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Tizoc misnamed

Is it worth noting that Tizoc is erroneously labelled 'Mai' in the PS2 release? 193.132.145.151 (talk) 09:45, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

If there is a source for that.Tintor2 (talk) 15:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned references in The King of Fighters XI

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of The King of Fighters XI's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "slam":

• From Mickie James: Oliver, Greg (2006-05-26). "Mickie James quick to dish out credit". Slam! Wrestling. Canadian Online Explorer. Retrieved 2007-10-18.
• From Randy Orton: Milner, John (October 7, 2004). "Slam! Sports biography". Slam! Sports. Canadian Online Explorer. Retrieved July 10, 2007. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
• From Kane (wrestler): "SLAM! Sports Bio". CANOE. Retrieved 2007-12-05.
• From Beth Phoenix: Roopansingh, Jaya. "Beth Phoenix". Slam! Sports. Canadian Online Explorer. Retrieved 2009-05-17.
• From John Cena: "SLAM! Sports biography". CANOE. February 6, 2005. Retrieved May 5, 2007.
• From Cody Rhodes: Elliott, Brian. "Cody Rhodes". Slam! Sports. Canadian Online Explorer. Retrieved June 23, 2009.
• From Jeff Hardy: "Jeff Hardy". Slam! Sports. Canadian Online Explorer. Retrieved 2007-10-08.
• From Triple H: Milner, John; Clevett, Jason; Kamchen, Richard (December 5, 2004). Canoe.ca. Canadian Online Explorer http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/Bios/helmsley.html. Retrieved July 11, 2007. {{cite news}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
• From Shawn Michaels: Milner, John (2005-03-12). "Slam! Sports biography". Slam! Sports. Canadian Online Explorer. Retrieved 2007-07-10. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 09:14, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:The King of Fighters XI/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Homeostasis07 (talk · contribs) 23:20, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Coming soon... Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 23:20, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I hope to avoid disappoint.Tintor2 (talk) 23:24, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I don't see you being disappointed @Tintor2: It's a solid article, and with a bit of finessing it can easily become a GA. ;) Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 00:27, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Infobox

• No problems here.

Gameplay

• The game retains the gameplay elements from The King of Fighters 2003 involving fights between six fighters while at the same calling for assists. → Repetition of "game", and I think the sentence could be phrased a bit more clearly. I've never played it, so what are "assists"? I'm assuming it means that one of your other three characters can jump in to "assist" you during battle, so you could say that. I'm not sure, so suggest you re-write yourself, then we can rephrase if needed.

Rephrased

• The Power Stocks that existed before are still present, and are filled in the usual fashion. → you should explain how they are filled, instead of using "in the usual fashion".

Done

• Link The King of Fighters 2003 at its first appearance (in first paragraph; it's currently linked in the second paragraph).

Done

• If none of the teams manages → if neither team manages... or can there be more than 2 teams?

Fixed

• The PlayStation 2 port added multiple modes not present in the arcade. → The PlayStation 2 port added multiple modes not present in the arcade version.

Fixed

• instead fight in order per decision of the player. → "instead fight in an order decided by the player."

Fixed

Plot

• From within the installment of a new King of Fighters tournament, new faces are handed invitations, while old friends return to the competition itself. → I don't know what this means, and it doesn't really make much sense as it is. If this is supposed to mean what I think it means, then maybe something along the lines of "A new King of Fighters tournament is established, in which both established fighters and newcomers participate."

Fixed

• Those from the Past are as the hosts of the tournament with a weapon expert named Shion and a dimension manipulator named Magaki serving as the respective sub and final bosses of the game. → Reads as though there's a typo somewhere. Maybe something like this would work better: "Those from the Past" are hosts of the tournament; they consist of a weapons expert named Shion and a dimension manipulator named Magaki, who serve as the respective sub and final bosses of the game.

Fixed

Characters

• Nothing to complain about here.

Pausing here for tonight. Will return tomorrow to review subsequent sections. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 00:27, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Development and release

• I was a bit confused about the first half of the first paragraph here (several different games mentioned and wasn't sure which statement referred to which title), so figured it was best to re-write myself. Please check my changes and make sure I've not introduced any factual errors.

It's okay. Thanks.

• With this new system, SNK commented The King of Fighters XI would stand out thanks to the graphical and gameplay elements introduced in the game such as animation frames by Iori Yagami. → SNK commented that by using the new system, The King of Fighters XI would stand out from its predecessors due to an improvement in both gameplay mechanics and graphic quality, specifically the animation frames created by Iori Yagami.
  • Done.
• Due to the original Garou: Mark of the Wolves cast not being involved as a result of a lack of closure, SNK decided to use them in The King of Fighters with a bigger role. → I don't understand what "as a result of a lack of closure" means.
  • Reworded. Garou is a the lastest game of Fatal Fury series whose narrative lacked closure for almost every character.
• The boss character Magaki was designed to "disgust and disturb fans with his movements", giving more characters to the antagonists, "Those from the Past". → The movements of the boss character Magaki – the leader of the group of antagonists "Those from the Past" – were intentionally designed to "disgust and disturb fans".

Done

• The staff paid attention to making the stages, such as the Esaka stage, more realistic. → The staff sought to make the levels, such as the Esaka stage, as realistic as possible.

  Done

• It consists of two CDs, both featuring 37 tracks. → could do with noting that both CDs contain the same 37 tracks, so what about: "It consists of two CDs, each containing different versions of the same 37 tracks."

  Done.

Reception

• Shouldn't the publications in the review box be alphabetical? They're alphabetical on album articles, so please ignore if it's different on game articles.

Tried rearranging them but rev1 and rev1scores among others can't be arranged with the other journalists apparently.

• Cheat Code Central enjoyed the game mode that had three characters fighting against another trio during a single fight, and cited the new mechanics as being an improvement over those of its predecessor The King of Fighters 2003, ...
  • Done
• Ryan Clements of IGN called it "a very old-school 2D fighter" since the game's style has not changed much since KOF '94. → Ryan Clements of IGN called it "a very old-school 2D fighter", noting that the style of the series had not changed much since The King of Fighters '94.
  • Done
• Link Sprite (computer graphics)
  • Done
• although Siliconera enjoyed art employed in other areas which show an increase of quality highly notable. → does not a perfect English sense make. Suggest changing to "although Siliconera enjoyed the art employed in other areas of the game which they said showed a significant increase in graphic quality."
  • Done
• uVeJuegos.com was more critical, saying that SNK Playmore should have changed the graphics already. → A bit too informal. Change to something like "uVeJuegos.com was more critical, saying that SNK Playmore should have updated the graphics of the series several years earlier."
  • Done
• Proper use of the game's mechanics, however, would allow the player to defeat him and he felt the game was still enjoyable despite this boss. → He said that proper use of the game's mechanics would allow the player to defeat him and said that the game was still enjoyable despite this boss.
  • Done

@Homeostasis07: Thanks for the review and the advices for the prose.Tintor2 (talk) 23:48, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Once these are done, I'll take a quick pass through the article to sort out any tensing issues, and will be happy to promote after then. ;) Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 23:36, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Sorry about the delay. I tried to finish this review last night, but my internet seemed to go poof while I was in the middle of running Earwig's copyvio tool. I have no idea whether it was just my ISP coincidentally acting up at an inopportune time, or whether there was something more to it. In any case, I'll finish promoting the article before I run the tool again (from the looks of it, I doubt there's any potential copyvio, but will run the tool afterwards just in case). I've sorted out the tense issues in the article, and made a couple of more changes that I missed last night, such as making the track listing in 'Development and release' MOS:CT compliant. I just have one more question about:

Lead

• At the same time, a group of fighters seek revenge against the protagonist Ash Crimson for stealing the powers of the clans in charge of sealing the creature. → I don't really know what the last half of this sentence means. Can you rephrase? Thanks. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 00:47, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Removed and added something else.Tintor2 (talk) 01:07, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm happy with the changes you've made to the article. Happy to promote now.

Checklist

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism: (will check immediately after promotion, per above) (as expected)

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Homebrew Dreamcast Port

https://www.dreamcast-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13580&sid=67965dce5c041b822c46c24ebf4d96e4

https://youtube.com/3oM0wwsCpyY

Pretty sure this is information that could be added

Not sure why people keep saying the source is untrustworthy since its the place the port itself got posted — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.96.154.139 (talk) 16:51, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Forums don't count as reliable sources and through that last edit the mention of the PSN port was removed for some reason.Tintor2 (talk) 17:45, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Let's wait for a couple of days or a week even. There are indeed website that still cover the Dreamcast from time to time in terms of the homebrew scene so, they might mention the homebrew Dreamcast port and i'll try to add them as soon as possible! Roberth Martinez (talk) 19:04, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Didn't know the forum was official. My bad. Then again, I guess this means we'll have more reviews to cover.Tintor2 (talk) 21:10, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

@Tintor2:Well, the forum is fan-made so, let's wait until some outlets pick up the story and then add it into the article... Roberth Martinez (talk) 22:25, 7 November 2020 (UTC)