Talk:The Last Outpost (Star Trek: The Next Generation)/GA1

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Reviewer: Ed! (talk · contribs) 11:26, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

• "The Ferengi attempt to oust the Federation as a hostile force, which Commander William Riker (Jonathan Frakes) admits to." -- I don't understand this sentence.

• Reworded. Miyagawa (talk) 08:49, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

• Is there any info about when shooting took place?

• None unfortunatly. Both the Nemecek and Gross/Altman sources don't go into filming dates unlike those rather handy production pages on Enterprise episodes. (Which incidently they didn't do for the first season of Enterprise, so I guess that'll be one series of Star Trek that cannot be expanded). Miyagawa (talk) 15:58, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

• I'm glad you mentioned DS9, but it also might merit inclusion to add they eventually took a completely different direction with the Ferengi there, turning them less into an adversary and more into comic relief.

• I'll check the Gross/Altman source as although it covers the Original Series, up to series 5 in TNG, it also covers the pilot of DS9. So there should be something in there about the new direction for Ferengi. Miyagawa (talk) 15:58, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

• Managed to find something explaining their use in DS9. Miyagawa (talk) 10:57, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

• It might also help to talk about what other enemies they introduced or tried to introduce in TNG to replace the Ferengi. I don't recall them ever really settling on anyone good until the Borg.

• No worries, I'll add something. The Borg was meant to be the direct replacement for the failed Ferengi, although they were initially meant to be insects with a hive mind. I often wonder if that and the bat-like ears were eventually worked into Andromeda instead. Miyagawa (talk) 15:58, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

• Pleasingly I managed to find an exact mention of the Ferengi's position being replaced with the Borg in the Nemecek reference on the "Q Who" page. Added that to the article. Miyagawa (talk) 11:17, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

• "The symbol means "Dog eat dog" and was painted green as that is the colour of dollar notes." -- Does it mean "dog eat dog" in another language? Also I don't understand the correllation between dollar notes and the Ferengi. Why did they prefer this color?

• The source is quite unclear. It said the symbol meant dog eat dog, but didn't specify where it came from. I've Googled for a symbol that meant the same in the hope that I'd stumble across where it cam from but found nothing. As for the tattoo color - Okuda/Westmore chose green "because it was the color of money". I took that to mean American money, and so specified that instead of money generally. Miyagawa (talk) 15:58, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

• Just realised I hadn't specified that it was American dollars they were talking about, so made an edit for clarity. Miyagawa (talk) 08:47, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

• Two duplicate links.

• Fixed. Miyagawa (talk) 08:46, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

• External links and disambig links look good.
• Images appear to be properly licensed. I don't see any problems with article stability or neutrality.

Placing the article on hold pending improvements. —Ed!^(talk) 11:48, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Great work! Passing GA now. —Ed!^(talk) 10:38, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

"Picard contacts the Ferengi and gets them to agree to mutually explore the planet below to try to find the source of the energy drain (while having his fingers trapped on several occasions in a chinese finger trap)." I believe the parenthetical is wrong: Picard was never stuck, Data was and Picard help him escape. And Riker appears stuck at the end of the show, but almost certainly knows how to get out.