Talk:The Lone Sailor

Creation date?

When was it created?--24.185.7.139 (talk) 15:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Suggested photo for inclusion

I don't know if a gallery is appropriate for this article or if it should just have the link to Commons. I have uploaded a photo of The Lone Sailor monument in Long Beach, CA that might be appropriate for this article.

File:Lone Sailor monument Long Beach CA.JPG

Lone Sailor monument Long Beach CA

- - MrBill3 (talk) 19:20, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Request for update to correct factual errors.

Rear Admiral William Thompson was the first president and CEO of the Navy Memorial Foundation, which raised the funds to create the Navy Memorial. As a tribute to Thompson's work to bring the memorial to fruition, sculptor Stanley Bleifeld placed Thompson's initials on the sea bag. The Lone Sailor model is Dan Maloney LCDR,USN (Retired). LCDR Maloney modeled in 1983 when he was a Petty Officer First Class assigned to the submarine USS Alabama. There were other earlier models but the designs created from those sessions were not approved. After giving up on honor guard models, Bleifeld asked New London Submarine Base for someone more typical.

My name is XXX. I worked closely with sculptor Stanley Bleifeld on the final design of the Lone Sailor and also the Liberty Hound statue located in Jacksonville, FL. I have correspondence between Stanley and myself to support this claim. I am a retired sailor and now work for the federal government as an employee of the Department of the Navy. I am cited in the current page as the model for just the body of the Lone Sailor. A former memorial curator, Mark Webber, published an article stating that the face was modeled after RADM Thompson similar to what is currently written on the Wikipedia page. I contacted Mark to tell him that wasn't true asked him why he wrote that and what was his source. Mark apologized and told me that he heard the admiral's wife remark that the statue looked like her husband when he was young. I have the e-mails between Mark and I. If you look at a picture of me and a picture of the admiral, the truth is evident. Mark hosted me at the Navy Memorial in DC in April 2015. He introduced me to several staff members and gave me some mementos. He apologized again. My visit was photographed by the memorial's official photographer, Jeff Malet. I would just like to set the record straight. RealLoneSailor (talk) 01:37, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Greetings RealLoneSailor and welcome to Wikipedia. I think the article now reflects what you assert as fact. I have found what I could as references to support this information. I have left in the correspondence listed as a reference, however by WP reliable source standards it needs to have been published somewhere to be used as a source. Otherwise it constitutes original research which is against WP policy. I have been unable to locate the Navy Times article by Maloney (a link would be most useful). Likewise the New London The Day article. I have also not gotten ahold of the Thompson book. If you can make some of this material available it would be useful in improving the article.

As a note I removed Maloney's retired rank, on WP titles are generally not used. Maloney's rank at the time of posing and that of the Thompson in his position are relevant.

Your interest in improving WP is appreciated. Hopefully the policies that dictate WP presents material as reported in published reliable sources only is not too frustrating. MrBill3 (talk) 12:45, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

There is some discussion on this topic at User_talk:MrBill3#Lone_Sailor MrBill3 (talk) 16:54, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

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