Talk:The New American Poetry 1945–1960

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44 Poets + some rejects

Source for the rejected poets: Allen papers (see: article notes)

The 44 poets were:

11.) Helen Adam (begin of part II),

12.) Brother Antoninus (II),

33.) John Ashbery (end of part IV),

4.) Paul Blackburn (I)

15.) ROBIN BLASER (II),

23.) EBBE BORREGAARD (end of part II),

20.) BRUCE BOYD (II),

40.) RAY BREMSER (V),

13.) James Broughton (II),

6.) PAUL CARROLL (I)

13.) MADELINE GLEASON

26.) Gregory Corso (III),

5.) Robert Creeley (I),

8.) Edward Dorn (I),

21.) KIRBY DOYLE (II),

18.) RICHARD DUERDEN, b. 1927 (II),

2.) Robert Duncan (I)

7.) Larry Eigner (I),

14.) Lawrence Ferlinghetti (II),

30.) Edward Field (IV),

25.) Allen Ginsberg (III),

14.) MADELINE GLEASON (II),

28.) BARBARA GUEST (begin of part IV),

41.) LeRoi Jones (V),

24.) Jack Kerouac (begin of part III),

31.) Kenneth Koch (IV),

19.) Philip Lamantia (II),

3.) Denise Levertov (I)

43.) RON LOEWENSOHN (V),

38.) EDWARD MARSHALL, b. 1932 (V),

39.) Michael McClure (V),

44.) David Meltzer (end of part V),

32.) Frank O'Hara (IV),

1.) Charles Olson (begin of part I)

10.) JOEL OPPENHEIMER (end of part I),

27.) Peter Orlovsky (end of part III),

36.) STUART Z. PERKOV (V),

29.) James Schuyler (IV),

37.) Gary Snyder (V),

35.) Gilbert Sorrentino (V),

16.) Jack Spicer (II),

17.) Lew Welch (II),

34.) Philip Whalen (begin of part V),

42.) John Wieners (V),

9.) Jonathan Williams (I).

Poets not included in this anthology:

William Bronk,

Cid Corman,

Judson Crews,

Paul Goodman,

Joanne Kyger,

DAVID LYTTLE,

Jack Micheline,

STAN PERSKY.

In the 1982 "revisionist" anthology, "The Postmoderns: The New American Poetry Revised" (1982), edited by George F. Butterick and Donald Allen. 15 poets were lost and 9 added to the new "postmodernist" "canon" of 38 poets - only 29 names of the first edition 44 were kept:

Jackson MacLow (1922)

Jerome Rothenberg (1931)

Diane DiPrima (1934)

Anselm Hollo (1934)

Joanne Kyger (1934)

Robert Kelly (1935)

JAMES KOLLER (1936)

Edward Sanders (b. 1939)

Anne Waldman (b. 1945)

P.S.: I have put some names in capitals, because I think these poets are still very obscure, even more so than the others. This is of course rather subjective.

For poets featured in Allen's later anthology, also see his papers/ his collections. (linked in the notes of this article)

Ralfdetlef (talk) 15:16, 1 July 2023 (UTC)