Talk:The Open Source Definition

Latest comment: 5 months ago by Buidhe paid in topic Wiki99 summary

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The bulk of this article consists of a copy of the open source definition available at http://opensource.org/docs/definition_plain.html

I do not see any copyright statement on the OSI website. Particularly, there is no notice that the OSD has been released to the public domain, or under the GNU FDL or a similar license.

The document in question is derived from a document of the Debian distribution available at http://www.us.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines . It contains the statement Other organizations may derive from and build on this document. Please give credit to the Debian project if you do. - Bruce Perens

The webpage at http://www.opensource.org/index.php contains this text, The contents of this website are licensed under the Open Software License 2.1 or Academic Free License 2.1 at the bottom of that page. - Bevo 16:39, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Item ten and grammar

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License Must Be Technology-Neutral: no click-wrap licenses or other medium-specific ways of accepting the license must be required.

Should that say may rather than must? The diffrence is subtle and I am not sure if it actually is saying what it means or not. Anyone? Dalf | Talk 02:18, 5 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

WP:NOFULLTEXT

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probably should be taken into account here. It is not so much a copyright issue, but one of having enough to write. The text itself should be linked to (or put on Wikisource if you feel that strongly). This may sound harsh, but if removing the source text turns the article into a stub, the article probably needs to be deleted and have its text merged into another article. 118.90.121.17 (talk) 11:54, 23 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

Free software definition (FSF) vs Open source software definition(OSI)

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Hi all,
According to the definition of Free software by FSF and Open source software by OSI, I realize that:

  • 6th criteria of OSI meets freedom 0 of FSF
  • 2nd and 3rd criteria of OSI meet freedom 1 and 3 of FSF
  • 1st criteria of OSI meets freedom 2 of FSF

So, IMHO, every open source software is free software, too. However, FSF states "nearly all open source software is free", it means "exist open source software is not free".
Any idea? If such software actually exists, please give examples and explain what is wrong with my idea.
Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.81.47.9 (talk) 15:19, 24 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. It's already at The Open Source Definition. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 20:07, 5 October 2011 (UTC)Reply


Open-source definitionOpen Source Definition

Proper name of a specific policy document, not to be confused with Open source#Definition. See how it's used in Bruce Peren's article[1]. --Enric Naval (talk) 10:27, 26 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

Then could it be italicised in the title (as it is in the first external reference), so people aren't fooled into thinking it's just another wrongly upcased generic phrase? Tony (talk) 12:20, 26 September 2011 (UTC)Reply
Yes, it can. Similar to The_Great_Gatsby. And maybe we could move it to The Open Source Definition. --Enric Naval (talk) 12:40, 26 September 2011 (UTC)Reply
I would support the caps if italicised; that's ideal. Tony (talk) 12:46, 26 September 2011 (UTC)Reply
Oh, just saw your "The" above ... not sure about that. Don't we have a rule against starting a title with "The" unless it's very very unusual ("The Beatles")? Tony (talk) 12:47, 26 September 2011 (UTC)Reply
No idea. In Category:Manifestos and subcategories I see examples of both: The Futurist Manifesto and The Communist Manifesto, so I am not sure that there is any hard rule. --Enric Naval (talk) 09:43, 27 September 2011 (UTC)Reply
Support. This article pertains to a specific definition of open-source named the OSD, not a general definition of open-source; therefore, the title is a proper noun and must be capitalized. — Dgtsyb (talk) 22:26, 26 September 2011 (UTC)Reply
As long as it's italicised, the "The" can be dropped per TITLE and MOS, and we can flag to readers that the absence of the hyphen (breaking normal rules) has survived, because it's someone else's title. Tony (talk) 03:39, 1 October 2011 (UTC) Clearly it is included in the original title. Still waiting on the italicisation bit. Tony (talk) 04:13, 1 October 2011 (UTC)Reply
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So what IS the open source definition?

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This article seems to say nothing about what the open source definition actually is (apart from the fact that it is "a document"). It tells me that it's different from certain other things, but that's not useful.

Mhkay (talk) 20:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

Edit request

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Please replace the content of the article above the categories with User:Buidhe paid/OSD. I rewrote and expanded the article based on independent sources. Buidhe paid (talk) 21:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Done I did made a few minor changes (such as avoiding the term "notably" in the lead per MOS:NOTABLY). Best, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 18:19, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wiki99 summary

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Summary of changes as a result of the Wiki99 project (before, after, diff):

  • Removed large section copying from the official definition, instead wrote a summary and explanation of the criteria based on secondary sources
  • Rewrote lead to fix the too-short tagged issue
  • Previously the article was mostly based on the OSI website. Now, the article cites a variety of scholarly sources
  • Rewrote reception section based on secondary sources, clarified that OSD is the most widely used open source definition
  • Added section on process for designating OSD-compatible licenses

Further steps:

  • With a bit of polishing this could be considered GA class

Buidhe paid (talk) 21:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply