Talk:The Path of Totality

The album's not realy dubstep!!!

I think in the infobox, Dubstep should not be included as a genre of the album as its been stated by Korn that the album will only have Dubstep/Electronic INFLUENCES, it's not an acutal Dubstep/Electro album. That would be like saying Follow the Leader is a rap album just because it had major Rap inlfluences. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmknot17 (talk • contribs) 08:49, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Calm down, man! Frankly speaking, Follow The Leader doesn't have those MAJOR Rap influences. But in this case, as obvious from the two available songs (Get Up and Narcissistic Cannibal), the music is about 1/2 dubstep. So i think we should leave the dubstep tag

What??? "Follow the Leader doesn't have those MAJOR Rap influesnces" Ok what about Children of the Korn, All In the Family, Cameltosis; pretty much straigh rap. The intro to It's On and the beatbox breakdown in Freak On A Leash. Yeah, the MAJOR rap influences are definately there. But back on topic; have you heard the other new songs live; they sound nothing like dubstep, like there's very little dubstep in them, it's obvious they played it safe with Get Up! and Narcissistic Cannibal as it's obvious they put more dubstep in those songs cuz they're the "Singles". Like Jonathan Davis stated in the new interview "We didn't make a dubstep album; we made a Korn album". All I got to say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.33.122 (talk) 07:55, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Man, what are you talking about? Album is an album, and live performance is a live performance. I had no chance to hear those songs live, but ON THE ALBUM they are pretty much dubstep. Listen, I'm not some dubstep fan, i actually don't even know any good dubstep performer. But I think we should make it clear - the album is pretty much dubstep, and it's nothing wrong with it. And by the way, about John Davis' words - I think he rather meant the spirit of the album, and not style or genre. After all, screw this, let's wait until the album's release day and listen to it. Then we'll have more things to talk about — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigsoft (talk • contribs) 08:41, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, your rigt. We can only truly tell how much 'Dubstep' and how much 'Metal' the album will have when we actualy hear it. And I stand corrected; just because the songs sound more 'Metal' and 'Heavy' live doesn't mean that's how they sound on the album; they can change so much live. Sorry for my little rant. All in All; it's not realy fair for anyone to judge the album as a whole until they actualy hear it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.33.122 (talk) 07:09, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Follow the Leader had ONE song that had a rap influence. Every song on The Path Of Totality is heavily dubstep. --24.23.143.90 (talk) 03:30, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

It's not heavily dubstep, it has some dubstep influences like some of the drum patterns and the tempo, but other than that it has squelching mid-range wobbling synths which are used in electro house and drum & bass. BeŻet (talk) 10:25, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Do you people actually understand what these genres represent? Drum n Bass, Electro House and Dubstep all have very different, very distinctive RHYTHMICAL structures (high speed, half time, four on the floor beat). Every single track on this album follows the halftime Dubstep structure - none of them even comes close to being Electro House or DnB. It is a Metal/Dubstep fusion album, and nothing more than that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.205.10.212 (talk) 16:36, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

It's not all about rhythmical structures and these drum patterns have been used in rock genres before without people calling them "dubstep". BeŻet (talk) 11:12, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, in electronic music it IS all about the rhythmical structure. Sorry, but that's how electronic genres ARE defined. House/Trance/Techno - simple 4/4 kick four on the floor beat Drum 'n' Bass - 170-200 BPM, extremely fast and complex breakbeats Dubstep - halftime, halftime, halftime Nowhere on this album is there a second of music that is Electro House or DnB. The electronic half of this genre fusion with Metal is entirely Dubstep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.205.10.212 (talk) 23:09, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Sorry sir, but you're not making sense. First you say it's all about the rhythmical structure and then you group several genres together and state that they use the same rhythmical structure. So you're just contradicting yourself and proving that it is NOT all about the rhythmical structure. BeŻet (talk) 11:42, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

No, you're just misinterpreting me. I was listing the differences in the rhythmical structures between those genres. Read more carefully before responding next time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.205.10.212 (talk) 02:50, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm reading you very carefully and you are clearly saying "Yes, in electronic music it IS all about the rhythmical structure" (see above) and then grouping genres together by rhythmical structures (another quote of your's: "House/Trance/Techno - simple 4/4 kick four on the floor beat" - you've clearly grouped those genres together) so please think before responding next time. BeŻet (talk) 11:54, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, because House, Trance and Techno are three very similar genres with very blurry lines and rhythmically *basically* identical. The separation I was making here was between them, Dubstep and DnB, all of which have extremely different rhythmical structures. I was making this point mainly because you claimed that this album had influences from these two other genres - which is false. It is entirely dubstep/brostep influenced. What you called "squelching mid-range wobbling synths" is extremely typical of brostep. So no, no influences from DnB or Electrohouse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.205.10.212 (talk) 17:16, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't seem the point of arguing with you. Genres are more than rhytmical structures and you seem to have a different opinion, yet uncomprehensive arguments. You've admitted yourself that some genres have very similar structures, hence there are other elements that create the distinction between those genres. BeŻet (talk) 13:04, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Whether or not it's a truly dubstep album is questionable, but doesn't it seem a little bit unprofessional for it to say, right at the top, that the album was made with "brostep" artists? Brostep is more or less a slang term, and it doesn't feel appropriate in this context. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.249.68.196 (talk) 09:30, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Brostep was a mocking term, true, but is now actually used by regular people, see the brostep section in Dubstep BeŻet (talk) 10:16, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Read through the discussion and would have to say that BeŻet quite obviously has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. I also removed the "Drum n Bass" from the genre list, because there is no DnB in this album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.205.10.212 (talk) 20:33, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I did prove that you are the clueless person over here. BeŻet (talk) 11:32, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Way Too Far kind of confirmed as the third single!

Jonathan Davis recently told HardDrive radio that "He think's Way Too Far will the 3rd single from The Path of Totality." he adds "I hope it will be." The Band have also expressed their interest in the song and have all cited the song as their favorite from the album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.224.33.122 (talk) 07:04, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

If you can provide a reliable source, then it can be added. Ikkian|talk|contributions 00:50, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Feed Me

Why was Feed Me changed to Jon Gooch? As Feed Me is his primary artist name for his productions in the dubstep, I think it might make more sense to use that moniker. Thoughts? Zayniac (talk) 23:57, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

The other artists don't show their real names, so it would be best to change "Jon Gooch" to "Feed Me", unless specified. Ikkian|talk|contributions 00:48, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Experimental Metal

"Experimental metal, also known as avant-garde metal or avant-metal, is a subgenre of heavy metal music loosely defined by use of experimentation and characterized by the use of innovative, avant-garde elements, large-scale experimentation, and the use of non-standard and unconventional sounds, instruments, song structures, playing styles, and vocal techniques."

So does anyone else think this qualifies as an experimental metal album? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.137.15.69 (talk) 02:03, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

I think it qualifies. You might need to find some sources though. --UltimateLegend (talk) 01:45, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Definitely not experimental metal, but maybe alternative metal since it experiments with non metal genres. I call the big one bitey 11:14, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

I've never seen this album referred to as experimental metal. Althought it's not a "dubstep" album by definition, it is surely dubstep influenced and there should be a way to accurately reflect this through a genre. I'm just not sure of the appropriate term to refer to the dubstep influenced rock that is present on this specific album. Nbcwd (talk) 19:08, 11 March 2013 (UTC)