Talk:The Sofia/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Adog (talk · contribs) 14:48, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I will take on this review as well. I know you are off for a second, so I anticipate having this done around today, August 30, or tomorrow, August 31. Adog (Talk・Cont) 14:48, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

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You know the drill:

Prose

Lead

• Kent obtained various loans to finance the building's construction, but it lost the building to foreclosure within a year. I would omit "it" as extra word.

Architecture

• ... have designed in that style.[10][11] it is also the only large ... Capitalization here?

Facade
Lower stories

• ... the main entrance was used as an entry ramp for vehicles.[6][10][4] Numerical order of refs. here.
• As with the above correction, The 61st Street side also contained a wide exit ramp from the garage.[11][4]

Upper stories

• On the upper stories, the facade is divided vertically into multiple bays and is faced with orange bricks. The latter half of "is faced with orange bricks" runs a little awkward. I am not sure if there is another way to describe the facade here, maybe ... and adorned with orange bricks?
• The Columbus Avenue elevation contains setbacks with parapets ... Replacing "contains" with "has" may improve this sentence slightly while reducing the instance of the former with the previous sentence.
• The original plans indicate that the south elevation was supposed to have setbacks, complementing those on the northern elevation, but ... Might not need this comma pause before "complementing".
• The 61st Street elevation contains horizontal bands, which wrap around from the Columbus Avenue elevation. I would omit the word "from" as an extra word and to help with sentence flow.
• The black bands of the facade wrap around to the east and north elevations. As with above, "to" might be an extra word here.

Interior

• Because it was originally used as a parking garage, the Sofia was built as a fireproof structure with an extremely strong frame. The steel superstructure was constructed by Post & McCord. How do we feel about flipping these two sentences narratively? That way, you introduce who built the interior superstructure, and the frame/parking garage sentence can blend into the next about the amount of parking spaces.
• Once at that floor, the operator would then push a button ... "Once on" instead of "Once at"?
• Ten of the apartments are duplexes, including two penthouse apartments that cover 2,000 and 2,200 sq ft (190 and 200 m2) respectively. Comma before "respectively"?
• Additionally, twenty of the apartments have outdoor terraces ... to simply Additionally, twenty apartments have outdoor terraces ...?

History

Use as garage

• In October 1928, Packard sold a plot measuring 100 by 140 ft (30 by 43 m), at the northeast corner of 61st Street and Columbus Avenue, to Kent Automatic Garages. May not need commas after "43m" and "Avenue".

References

• 74, "Therealdeal.com" to "The Real Deal"? Could also be wikilinked.

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The skim-through and read-through were very good. Minor corrections or suggestions above. Will do spot checks shortly. Adog (Talk・Cont) 01:53, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Additional comments or concerns

• Spot check: I believe this source is for the wrong building/lot as ref. 3.
• "The Sofia Bros. refinanced the building ..." I would spell out Sofia Brothers here for consistency.

Well written + verifiability

The article is well written, with some minor corrections or suggestions for the editor to implement. The article follows a general manual of style of buildings in New York City. The article is referenced with a variety of reliable sources. The reference layout is proper, with one issue spotted. In terms of original research, nothing came up in spot checks except for a possible wrong link to the building site. Earwig's reporting checks out, no problems with copyright, plagiarism, or close paraphrasing. If any suggestions for as small as it is, maybe changed "brought" here to "purchased". :P Adog (Talk・Cont) 02:41, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Broadness + focus + neutral

The article is broad in structure and also has a good grasp on the subject matter of the article. The contents are well-focused. The article is neutral towards its subject, with no outstanding issues. Adog (Talk・Cont) 01:53, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Images + stability

The images are relevant to the topic and help clearly illustrate the article's subject. Image paperwork is properly filed. The article is stable, with no ongoing or active edit conflicts. Adog (Talk・Cont) 01:53, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

• @Epicgenius: This one is done as well when you are ready. No rush! I might pick up another one before the GAN drive is over. Adog (Talk・Cont) 02:41, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

  Thanks for the review @Adog. I've fixed all of the issues you mentioned above, except for the following:

• "The black bands of the facade wrap around to the east and north elevations." As with above, "to" might be an extra word here. - In this context, the black bands are placed on the south, east, and north elevations of the facade; they are continuations of the bands on the western elevation. This is why the sentence was worded in this way.
• "In October 1928, Packard sold a plot measuring 100 by 140 ft (30 by 43 m), at the northeast corner of 61st Street and Columbus Avenue, to Kent Automatic Garages." May not need commas after "43m" and "Avenue". - The text "at the northeast corner of 61st Street and Columbus Avenue" is intended as a parenthetical, i.e. the commas have the same effect as putting that text in parentheses.

– Epicgenius (talk) 14:19, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

• @Epicgenius: All good then! Passing! :) Adog (Talk・Cont) 20:31, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

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