Talk:The Soft Bulletin
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Shocking Revelation!!!
editGUYS! OK, THIS IS REALLY FREAKY
THE GENRE OF THIS ALBUM IS LISTED AS INDIE, BUT THE LABEL IS LISTED AS WARNER BROS! A MAJOR LABEL!
The disturbing paradox: How can a band be on a major label but still be indie?
Response to above statement:
Being an indie band doesn't mean they're necessarily on an indie label. DUH! People that think that are stupid. Indie is actually a genre of music and there are certain styles of music that are considered indie. Indie music just tends to be more underground and not mainstream at all. What label they're on has nothing to do with it.
Response to the response:
But the use of 'indie' is absurdly misleading as a GENRE of music. The music being 'underground' does not correlate closely with its genre, and it's arguable whether this album is 'underground' at all, whatever that means. The album needs to be re-classified as 'psychedelic rock' and 'space rock'. 86.135.94.80 23:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Showing a friend what I mean
editUS CD Release | UK CD Release | Vinyl Release |
---|---|---|
1. "Race for the Prize" [Remix] (4:09) | 1. "Race for the Prize" (4:18) | Side one |
1. "Race for the Prize" [Remix] | ||
2. "A Spoonful Weighs a Ton" (3:32) | 2. "A Spoonful Weighs a Ton" | 2. "A Spoonful Weighs a Ton" |
3. "The Spark That Bled" (5:55) | 3. "The Spark That Bled" | 3. "The Spark That Bled" |
4. "The Spiderbite Song" (4:02) | 4. "Slow Motion" (3:53) | 4. "The Spiderbite Song" |
5. "Buggin'" [Remix] (3:16) | Side two | |
5. "Buggin'" [Remix] (3:16) | ||
6. "What Is the Light?" (4:05) | 5. "What Is the Light?" | 6. "What Is the Light?" |
7. "The Observer" (4:11) | 6. "The Observer" | 7. "The Observer" |
8. "Waitin' for a Superman" (4:17) | 7. "Waitin' for a Superman" | Side three |
8. "Waitin' for a Superman" | ||
9. "Suddenly Everything Has Changed" (3:54) | 8. "Suddenly Everything Has Changed" | 9. "Suddenly Everything Has Changed" |
10. "The Gash" (4:02) | 9. "The Gash" | 10. "The Gash" |
11. "Feeling Yourself Disintegrate" (5:17) | 10. "Feeling Yourself Disintegrate" | Side four |
11. "Slow Motion" (3:53) | ||
12. "Feeling Yourself Disintegrate" | ||
12. "Sleeping on the Roof" (3:09) | 11. "Sleeping on the Roof" | 13. "Sleeping on the Roof" |
13. "Race for the Prize" (4:18) | 12. "Race for the Prize" [Remix] (4:09) | |
14. "Waitin' for a Superman" [Remix] (4:19) | 13. "Waitin' for a Superman" [Remix] | |
14. "Buggin'" [Remix] (3:16) |
fixed version of above table
editI'm going to eventually implement this into the article. -MajorB 01:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Intended Order 5.1 Release |
US CD Release | UK CD Release | Vinyl Release |
---|---|---|---|
1. "Race for the Prize" | 1. "Race for the Prize" [Remix] (4:09) | 1. "Race for the Prize" (4:18) | 1. "Race for the Prize" [Remix] |
2. "A Spoonful Weighs a Ton" | 2. "A Spoonful Weighs a Ton" (3:32) | 2. "A Spoonful Weighs a Ton" | 2. "A Spoonful Weighs a Ton" |
3. "The Spark That Bled" | 3. "The Spark That Bled" (5:55) | 3. "The Spark That Bled" | 3. "The Spark That Bled" |
4. "Slow Motion" | 4. "The Spiderbite Song" (4:02) | 4. "Slow Motion" (3:53) | 4. "The Spiderbite Song" |
5. "What Is the Light?" | 5. "Buggin'" [Remix] (3:16) | 5. "What Is the Light?" | 5. "Buggin'" [Remix] (3:16) |
6. "The Observer" | 6. "What Is the Light?" (4:05) | 6. "The Observer" | 6. "What Is the Light?" |
7. "Waitin' for a Superman" | 7. "The Observer" (4:11) | 7. "Waitin' for a Superman" | 7. "The Observer" |
8. "Suddenly Everything Has Changed" | 8. "Waitin' for a Superman" (4:17) | 8. "Suddenly Everything Has Changed" | 8. "Waitin' for a Superman" |
9. "The Gash" | 9. "Suddenly Everything Has Changed" (3:54) | 9. "The Gash" | 9. "Suddenly Everything Has Changed" |
10. "Feeling Yourself Disintegrate" | 10. "The Gash" (4:02) | 10. "Feeling Yourself Disintegrate" | 10. "The Gash" |
11. "Sleeping on the Roof" | 11. "Feeling Yourself Disintegrate" (5:17) | 11. "Sleeping on the Roof" | 11. "Slow Motion" (3:53) |
12. The Spiderbite Song | 12. "Sleeping on the Roof" (3:09) | 12. "Race for the Prize" [Remix] (4:09) | 12. "Feeling Yourself Disintegrate" |
13. Buggin' | 13. "Race for the Prize" (4:18) | 13. "Waitin' for a Superman" [Remix] | 13. "Sleeping on the Roof" |
14. "Waitin' for a Superman" [Remix] (4:19) | 14. "Buggin'" [Remix] (3:16) |
Article Reworking
editI've reworked the article and hopefully have made it better. --Analogdemon (talk) 04:28, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
concept album?
editNo one has mentioned that some of the songs seem to display a loose concept for the album. I don't feel qualified to discuss this, so perhaps someone that has scrutinized the lyrics more can point out the connections? --MM 00:30, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
response - The album is certainly a concept album in regards to its overall sound... much similar to the Beach Boys' 1966 album Pet Sounds. Songs on the Soft Bulletin all share a similar style and recording acoustics. Whether or not this is important enough to mention in an article is up to other people. It would all be original research... - tbone (talk) 19:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Sold 38,000 copies in 2006?
editIf true, that's awesome, but the link that sources that is dead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.37.16.150 (talk) 21:07, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
--Never mind, I found sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.37.16.150 (talk) 21:54, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
Could you please site them for the article? The fact that you yourself found them doesn't help the article at all. chainy 04:28, 13 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chainy (talk • contribs)
Neal Cassady
editI found no evidence in the cited article that the album cover is a photo of Neal Cassady. I am removing the reference to Neal Cassady, as there is no mention of the real name of the subject in the original LIFE article. Anyone who can find proof that the subject of the photo is Neal Cassady is welcome to correct me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chainy (talk • contribs) 04:18, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Track listings
editDon't know whether it makes sense or not to define the 'definite' track order. But as there are claims that 5.1 version would be the one I would like to note that in many sources the vinyl version running order is the 'right' one. For instance in Pitchfork.tv documentary Steven Drozd states that Sleeping on the Roof should be the last song on the album. Also when performing the album live, the Lips have not been using the 5.1 version order but the vinyl release running order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jarkesia (talk • contribs) 14:35, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
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