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I dont wish to offend the person who worked hard on this article, but it seems very much to be a fans point of view, especialy the part at the end of the first history chapter, about the heccelers. -Happyhaydn

Sorry. I've tried to tweak it a bit so as to read less like a magazine article & just state the facts. Rest assured that everything in it is true, though, & can be documented elsewhere in print & online. Still, I apologize for my lack of knowledge on how this all works... I hope it's more to your liking now. -me

I actualy prefer personal articles for reading, its just things are ment to be kept factual here. i am a terible writer myself, but i like just adding little bits of missing info. i am prety new on here mysele. -haydn

I hope he won't mind my blowing his cover, but the anonymous edits here are presumably from Rob Morgan himself (I dropped him a note that I'd written this), so it's not so much fan-writing as autobiography. (I hope that what I originally wrote doesn't come off as too fannish, though I will readily confess to being a fan.) I'll take a shot at it, hoping we can get consensus on POV: Rob, I'm sure you will understand that there is a difference between encyclopedia-writing and fanzine writing. On a topic like this, we try not to be as dry as Britannica, but it's equally important that the article keeps a tone that fits in with the rest of Wikipedia.

FWIW (and I realize this is not citable) Rob is right that in the legendary 999 incident, there were only relatively few hecklers (although they were all right down front): Mark Arm's version exaggerates the reality. Whatever else there is to this, I think Rob deserves credit for denying that he was "so punk" that he fearlessly played an entire set to an angry mob of 500. As they say in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence, "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." At least we have an attribution for the legend.

Rob, we're allowed to cite what people say about themselves (ideally in print, but even on their own web site) as their version of events in which they were involved. If you have any interest in writing your own version of the incident on your own site, we can then quote it as your version of events.

Meanwhile, I'll take another pass through and try to make sure the narrative voice stays relatively neutral. Happyhaydn, have a look when I'm done and see if you'd be willing to remove the NPOV tag, or be more specific about any problems you feel remain. -- Jmabel | Talk 21:26, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Great, i have removed it now. Handy that you could quote him then. -haydn

Line-up

A more definitive line-up of members past and present could help make this article look more professional —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.218.13.60 (talk • contribs) 3 Jan 2006

The problem is that it would be so massive. Rob Morgan, who is himself an accomplished fanzine writer, tries to sort it out on the Squirrels own site, and even he simplifies it a bit. If people really think it would be useful, we could certainly add this, but I think that the few people who would ever care are likely to go look at the group's own site. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:56, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

18 years later, Rob provides the following; someone might want to summarize into the article. From what I can tell, very accurate (including even giving fair lists of background for people who later had a falling-out), but it's primary-source material

🐿 ERNEST ANYWAY & THE MIGHTY, MIGHTY SQUIRRELS 
(1984)
ROB "CAPT." MORGAN- Vocals (ex-Fishsticks, Pudz, Pamona Boners)
SCOTT McCAUGHEY- Bass, Vocals (Young Fresh Fellows)
TAD HUTCHISON- Drums (Young Fresh Fellows)
JIMBO SANGSTER- Lead Guitar (Young Fresh Fellows)
CHUCK CARROLL- Lead Guitar, Organ (Young Fresh Fellows)
Also, mo' later, at a "reunion" show or two- 
KURT BLOCH- Lead Guitar (Fastbacks, YFF )
Also also, JOHN RAMBERG (Model Rockets/Stumpy Joe) subbed for Jimbo at the 10th Anniversary Gig in '94.
🐿 "SQUIRRELS FOR A DAY" 
(One off gig!- June 30th, 1985)
ROB- Lead Vocals 
SCOTT- Bass, Vocals (Dynette Set) 
TAD- Drums 
BILL LARSEN- Guitar  (Dynette Set) 
CHRISTY McWILSON- Vocals (Dynette Set)
RIKI MAFUNE- Vocals (Dynette Set)
(Show was actually billed as "New Age Urban Squirrels") 
🐿 NEW AGE URBAN SQUIRRELS ("The Blind Faith of the U-District") 
(1985 - 1986)
ROB- Lead Vocals 
TAD- Drums 
ERIC ERICKSON- Lead Guitar, Vocals (Ex-Fishsticks, The Frazz) (RIP)
JOEY KLINE- Guitar, Vocals (Surfer Ruth, Boy Toast, Prudence Dredge) 
CRAIG FERGUSON- Bass, Vocals (the "Mystery Bassist")
🐿 SQUIRRELS GROUP '87 
(1987)
ROB- Lead Vocals 
JOEY- Guitar, Vocals 
MARK NICHOLS- Keyboards, Vocals (Prudence Dredge) 
KEVIN CROSBY- 5- String Bass (Upper Echelon)
JON NAY- Drummer # 1 (The Frazz) 
(line-up aka "Crosby, Squirrels, and Nay") 
NATE JOHNSON- Drummer # 2 (Fastbacks, etc.) 
(line-up aka "Crosby, Squirrels, and Nate") 
and sometimes 
TOM VAIL- Sax, Vegetables, "Vocals" (Dredge)
NOTE: Both MICK VEE (Dredge) & CHARLES WHEELER 
played bass for this incarnation at various times. There was also a gig or 2 where CRAIG played rhythm guitar... or so I'm TOLD!  It all gets a little FUZZY around here (lol)...
🐿 RON VOYAGE and The NEW SQUIRRELS 
(1988)
ROB- Lead Vocals 
JOEY- Guitar, Vocals 
MARK- Keyboards, Vocals 
JON AUER- Lead Guitar, Vocals (The Posies) 
KEN STRINGFELLOW- Bass, Vocals (The Posies) 
DAVE "GIMPY" GUINN- Drums (Prudence Dredge)
🎤 RON VOYAGE 
(1988)
ROB- Vocals 
A 1970s "BOOM BOX" on a stool- Backing Tracks 
(PRE-KARAOKE CRAZE. BOLD!!)
🐿 SQUIRRELS LIVE UNIT (# one) 
(Summer 1989 - Spring 1990)
ROB- Lead Vocals 
JOEY- Guitar, Vocals 
MARK- Keyboards, Vocals
CRAIG- Bass, Vocals 
JIMMY "J.T." THOMAS- Lead Guitar (Mass Hypnosis)
ANDY DAVENHALL- Drums (Pure Joy) 
J. STOTLER & T.J. HANIFY- Squirrels Security
NOTE: MARK HOYT (Stumpy Joe) played Lead Guitar for 2 gigs and quit! Too confusing for him. LOL!
🐿 SQUIRRELS LIVE UNIT (# two) 
(April 1990 - Xmas 1990)
ROB- Lead Vocals 
JOEY- Guitar, Vocals 
MARK- Keyboards, Vocals
CRAIG- Bass, Vocals 
J.T.- Lead Guitar, Vocals 
GIMPY- Drums 
MARY K- Slinky 
J. Stotler (RIP) & T.J. Hanify (& sometimes their buddy Jake)- Squirrels Security (They also appeared as the "Fallen Angels" at the legendary XXXmas shows)
🙃👏🏻 Note: "PROPMEISTER EXTRAORDINAIRE" JAMES TOLIN truly enters the fold somewhere around here. A looooong story, indeed. A book in itself. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING! We love you. 
🐿 THE SQUIRRELS (Squirrels Live Unit # three) 
(1991)
ROB- Lead Vocals 
JOEY- Guitar, Vocals 
CRAIG- Bass, Vocals 
J. T.- Lead Guitar, Vocals 
GIMPY- Drums
and/or 
MIKE MUSBURGER (The Posies, Fastbacks, and on and on, as you all know!)- Drums 
DON PAWLAK- Pedal Steel 
BABY CHEEVERS is "born" in Vancouver BC, 6/15/91 
🐿 THE SQUIRRELS
(Fall 1991 - Spring 1992?)
ROB- Lead Vocals 
JOEY- Guitar, Vocals 
J. T.- Lead Guitar, Vocals
CRAIG- Bass, Vocals 
MARK- Keyboards, Vocals 
HOLLIS THE BUG (aka John Fleischman)- Drums (direct from Mark's "little boy goes to hell" orchestra) (RIP)
🐿 THE SQUIRRELS 
(June, 1992 - Jan. 1994)
ROB- Lead Vocals 
JOEY- Guitar, Vocals 
J. T.- Lead Guitar, Vocals
CRAIG- Bass, Vocals 
HOLLIS THE BUG- Drums 
BRUCE LAVEN- Keyboards, Vocals (Duffy Bishop & the Rhythm Dogs)
🐿 👏🏻 Honorary members, both onstage and in the studio over the years starting in the early '90s- 
ROY A. LONEY (RIP)- Vocals (Flamin Groovies/Phantom Movers/Longshots)
SKERIK- Saxamaphone (Critters Buggin', Crack Sabbath, etc.)
🐿 THE SQUIRRELS 
(Jan. 1994 - June, 1994)
ROB- Lead Vocals 
JOEY- Guitar, Vocals 
J. T.- Lead Guitar, Vocals
HOLLIS THE BUG- Drums 
BRUCE- Keyboards, Vocals 
KEVIN- 5-string Bass
🐿 THE SQUIRRELS 
(June, 1994 - Dec. 1994)
ROB- Lead Vocals 
JOEY- Guitar, Vocals 
J. T.- Lead Guitar, 'Utah Jazz', Vocals 
BRUCE- Keyboards, Vocals 
KEVIN- 5-string Bass 
JAMES "COOKIE" COOKMAN- Drums (The Crawdaddies)
🐿 THE SQUIRRELS 
(Jan. 1995 - Dec. 20th, 1997)
ROB- Lead Vocals 
J. T.- Guitar, Vocals 
BRUCE- Keyboards, Vocals
KEVIN- 5-string Bass 
COOKIE- Drums
🐿 THE SQUIRRELS (XXXmas "Reunion" Show) 
(Dec. 18th, 1998)
ROB- Lead Vocals 
J. T.- Guitar, Vocals 
JOEY- Vocals, Guitar 
BRUCE- Keyboards, Vocals 
KEVIN- 5-string Bass 
HOLLIS- Drums 
Special guests
CRAIG- Bass, Vocals 
GIMPY- Drums 
COOKIE- Drums
🐿 SQUIRRELS GROUP 2000 (aka Red Löbster Cult) 
(Summer 1999 - Dec. 2002)
ROB- Lead Vocals, Kazoo, Misc. 
Noisemakers, Blurred Visionary 
J. T.- Lead Guitar, Vocals (MVP- 2002) 
TOM MORRISON- Keyboards (The Moving Parts, Sorcerer's Apprentice, etc.) (RIP)
JOEY- Vocals, Guitar 
KEVIN- 5-string Bass 
HOLLIS THE BUG- Drums & Percussion
🐿 THE SQUIRRELS (aka Buckle And The Belt) 
(Spring 2003 - Spring 2004)
ROB- Lead Vocals, Kazoo, etc. 
J. T.- Lead Guitar, Vocals
JOEY- Vocals, Guitar 
HOLLIS THE BUG- Drums & Percussion 
MATT FOX- Bass (Bitter End, Rockaraoke, Hartwood) (MVP- 2003) 
MARK- Keyboards, Vocals
COOKIE- Drums* 
 * Cookie re-enlisted as of XXXmas '03 to cover for Hollis during his recovery from a nasty break dancing accident ....no foolin'! (See next line-up...) 
🐿 THE SQUIRRELS GROUP: THE NEXT GENERATION 
(April 2004 - March 2005)
ROB- Lead Vocals, Kazoo, etc. 
JOEY- Vocals, Guitar (co-pilot) 
COOKIE &/or HOLLIS THE ONE ARMED 
BUG- Tag Team Drums & Percussion 
MATT- Bass, Guitar, Vocals 
TOM- Keyboards 
and introducing the "All New New Guy" 
AARON "A.T." TAYLOR- Lead Guitar, Vocals 
(Bill, Survey Cez, Radio Nationals) (MVP- 2004)
🐿 THE SQUIRRELS (aka "Vern Fonk Railroad")
(March 2005 - Dec. 2007)
ROB- Lead Vocals, Kazoo, etc. 
JOEY- Vocals, Guitar, Bass (Co-pilot)
COOKIE &/or HOLLIS THE BUG- Drums & Percussion, Vocals 
MATT (aka "Leo Slayer")- Bass, Guitar, Vocals 
AARON- Lead Guitar, Vocals
With occasional assistance from 
BRUCE LAVEN &/or MARK NICHOLS- Keyboards, Vocals
🐿 THE SQUIRRELS (aka "Old Age Urban Squirrels") 
(Jan. 2008 - Oct. 2008)
ROB- Lead Vocals, Kazoo, etc. 
JOEY- Vocals, Guitar (Co-pilot)
COOKIE- Drums 
MATT- Bass, Guitar, Vocals 
AARON- Lead Guitar, Vocals
RUSTY "New NEW GUY" URIE- Keyboards (Hit Explosion, Rockaraoke, Smokelahoma, '80s Invasion, etc.)
...plus special sporadic alumni involvement from the likes of Kevin (b), J.T. (lg), & maybe Gimpy (d), or Chuck (g) or... aw hell, who knows! Anything is possible at THIS point!
🐿 THE SQUIRRELS (aka "The For Lease Clovers") 
(Oct. 2008 -Dec. 2009**)
ROB- Lead Vocals, Kazoo, etc. 
JOEY- Vocals, Guitar (Co-pilot) 
HOLLIS- Drums, Vocals, Glamour 
MATT- Bass, Guitar, Vocals 
AARON- Lead Guitar, Vocals 
RUSTY- Keyboards 
🎅🏻 **After XXXmas 2009, Rob, Joey & the boys planned to put The Squirrels Live Unit on indefinite hiatus, meaning at least as a full time, working live band. Other than a few ones offs under various names (Three Squirrel Night, The Mystery Dates (feat. FRED SPEAKMAN on keyboards!), T.A.R.P.), mostly at house parties, the band stayed true to their word. That is, until President Cheetoface stressed the whole world out by...uh, actually WINNING. Uh oh. Time to get back to work, we figured! We have SMILES to make! 
🐿 THE SQUIRRELS (The "Squirrels Trump Hate" era)
(Jan. 2017 - July 2019)
ROB- Vocals, Kazoo, Slide Whistle, Misc. Sound Effects 
JOEY- Vocals, Guitar 
J. T.- Lead guitar, Vocals, Jokes
BRUCE- Keyboards, Vocals
KEITH LOWE- Bass (Duffy Bishop and the Rhythm Dogs, Crack Sabbath, Wayne Horvitz, etc.)
BILL RAY- Drums (Ike Turner, Mike Keneally, Paul Gilbert, etc.) (MVP- 2017)
MARY K- Slinky
🐿👏🏻 Auxiliary Members/Alumni/Guest Stars-
AMY DENIO- Sax (Kultur Shock, Tipton Sax Quartet, etc.)
JULIANA BRANDON- Vocals, Human Theremin (Operadisiac, Paper Puppet Theater)
MATT- Bass, Guitar, Vocals, Snappy Dancing
MARK- Keyboards, Vocals
HOLLIS- Percussion, Vocals
JIMBO- Lead Guitar 
ED VIARS- Electric Ukelele (The Castaways)
PLASTIC DICK- Vocals (Surfer Ruth, Boy Toast, Kline's 57)
LISA RATCHETT- Vocals (Nurse Ratchett)
BILL SCHLANBUSH- Shenanigans (The Plastards)
🐿🖥️ "THE SQUIRRELS FROM HOME" (Quarantine Video Lineup)
(May 2020)
ROB- Vocals, Kazoo, Rainsticks
JOEY- Vocals
AARON- Guitars
BRUCE- Piano, Vocals
AMY- Sax, Vocals
MATT- Bass, Vocals
BILL &/or VLAD the HORSE- Drums
BABY CHEEVERS- Vocals
J. T.- Producin', Gluein', Pastin' (MVP 2020)
🐿🖥️ "THE SQUIRRELS FROM HOME, PART TWO" (Video Lineup)
(August 2020)
ROB- Lead vocals (verse 2), "Harmony" vocals (ouch) (all verses), "Shut in" voice
JOEY- Lead Vocals (verse 1)
JIMMY- Bass, Guitar, Programming/Keyboards, Sampler
BILL- Drums
MATT- Lead Guitar
MARK- Lead Vocals (bridge), Berzerko Vocal Samples 
MARY K- Slinky
JULIANA- Operatic Vocals (bridge), Shadow Puppetry
FRED SPEAKMAN- Lead Vocals (verse 3), Electric Piano
Special cameo appearance by BABY CHEEVERS
🐿💿 THE SQUIRRELS (aka "Three Squirrel Night" Part Two) ###
(April/May 2022)
ROB- Vocals, Kazoo
JIMMY- Guitars, Bass, Vocals
BILL- Drums
TOWER OF SOUR- "Horns" (ahem)
### One off line up to record "25, or 64?", a pretty funny song to mark Rob's 64th Burfday. Well, we thought it was funny,  anyway. It's up on JT's site if you wanna see for yourself, along with some other Squirrely stuff, uncluding "Rock Polisher", a full unreleased album from 2002. Check it out! emotionalandroidmusicwerks.com 
🐿💿 SQUIRRELS 40th ANNIVERSARY PROJECT (aka "Old Aged Bourbon Squirrels")
(Jan. 2024 through present)
FINAL PERSONAL TBA... "SQ/40" studio EP to be finished later this year. All good things take time! So far, participants include 
ROB- Vocals, Slide whistle, Kazoo, Sound effects
JIMMY- Guitars, Bass, Vocals, Engineering
JOEY- Guitar, Vocals
BRUCE- Keyboards, Vocals
BILL- Drums, Engineering
BABY CHEEVERS- Cheeverisms
DONNA RAY- Vocals
More alumni involvement TBA, once we have it on tape. It's all still in the works. Again, gonna be awhile still. Stay tuned, kids... and THANK YOU!!!!! TO BE CONTINUED! -RM ❤️🐿👏🏻🧷✊🏻

Jmabel | Talk 20:43, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

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Possibly useful additional source

http://www.seattleweekly.com/2000-12-13/music/capt-morgan-s-revenge/ is a Seattle Weekly article from the year 2000. - Jmabel | Talk 20:21, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Sourcing

Much of this was sourced to the Squirrels' own website which, with the band having broken up, is apparently either going to go away soon or be reworked as more of a historical thing. For what it's worth, old states of their site are pretty well backed up on the Internet Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.thesquirrels.com/. - Jmabel | Talk 02:50, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

The Pudz

I've found enough reliable sources to make a Pudz article, but I'm not sure I have enough content to make more than a stub. Should the info just be added to this article? 64.40.54.241 (talk) 01:30, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Updating this article

I started working on the article already. I'll do some general clean up and work on the references first. Any reliable sources would be greatly appreciated. I'd just like to have somebody look over my shoulder to fix any blatent errors (I make a lot of spelling mistakes). Anything on top of that is gravy. Thanks. 64.40.54.35 (talk) 06:21, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Disclosing possible conflict of interest

When I first wrote this article, I knew Rob (and the other Squirrels) casually enough that there was clearly no conflict of interest here. Partly as a result of my writing this, I ended up knowing them (especially Rob) pretty well and a lineup of the band ended up playing my 60th birthday party. Also, I'm currently collaborating musically with Juliana Brandon, who occasionally also collaborates with the Squirrels. I'm going to try to keep my updates NPOV, but please feel free to rework if you think I missed the mark anywhere. - Jmabel | Talk 07:24, 4 February 2021 (UTC)