Talk:The Tale of Joan of Arc

Madison's Peer Review #2

Hi, I hope you're having a nice week! So I liked your first sentence: I knew the title and author which are very important. Additionally, you included what type of writer the author is known for, which is great. I would wonder if you need a citation in order to make that claim, though? I liked the inclusion of a colorful image, but I was a bit confused by the introduction paragraph. I was not sure why there were lines from the poem? It is a great idea, but I would ask if you could contextualize why they are there or if perhaps they could be re-organized elsewhere? Structurally, I think the article is quite great. I like the order you've chosen to present the viewer with, and I think you added a great amount to the History section especially. I do wonder if perhaps there could be more criticism in which is included for it is an older poem so I would imagine that there is an abundance? I would love to see some more on that! Was it only positive or negative criticism? When was the criticism written? These would be things I would be interested in reading about. I didn't find many issues on neutrality or balance, so that's great! In the first paragraph, however, you assert that City of Ladies is written about infamous women from history. I don't deny that, but I would say that you likely need to add a citation so that it does not sound like you are making an opinion statement. If it is an opinion, I think it needs to be changed so that it is more neutral. Otherwise, you did great! When it comes to sources, you have a great amount. A lot of things you are saying have sources to back it up, which is fantastic. In the intro, however, as previously discussed, I do think you may need the inclusion of other sources when it comes to the author's other work. Additionally, when it comes to the summary, I would make sure that you cite at the end the work itself so that the viewer knows that you got it from a poem (so that they know which version, etc.). I would again also love to hear more about the criticisms! Overall, you have a really great article! I love that you introduce the author and historically contextualize it in addition to providing a summary and criticism about the text. Furthermore, the image is a lovely touch. As for things I would think could supplement would be to re-organize the intro paragraph (the stanzas seem out of place/don't quite make sense), adding additional critical viewpoints or more elaboration of the criticisms you have presented, and that's about it. I suppose you could try including some "citing" within the article that links to other Wikipedia pages, it actually is quite nice! Perhaps you could add a section on themes as well? That seems as though it could be rewarding. Good job I can't wait to see the finished product!

Reema Peer Review #2

Right off the bat, I really enjoy the overall look and format of the page. The image is interesting and the table of contents is very helpful. The lead also gives me a good idea of what “The Tale of Joan Arc” is about using clear and concise language. Your introduction to the section on the stanzas is very informative of the structure of the poem and you provide many sources to support the claims you’re making. The only thing I suggest you add is maybe a few more examples of criticism of the poem just so that readers have a better understanding of the critical discussions happening around the text. This is a very well-written article though, and I would like to incorporate a table of contents and further reading section to my article as well. Great work!

Edited 'feminist' to 'poet' and adjust reference of 'infamous' to 'famous'

Excellent page. In the introductory paragraph, I have edited 'feminist' to say 'poet', which is less of an anachronism and more in keeping with her output and her claim to fame in modern Joan studies.

I also edited the term 'infamous women' in the reference to her earlier work, City of Ladies, to say 'famous women', as many of the women in that work were not infamous but lauded in the medieval era: Mary Magdalene, Dido, the Gospel prophetess Anna, and several saints. I am not certain that a reference to this work is necessary to this article at all, since it is easily discovered on the primary page for the poet. However, since it deals with her interest in famous women, perhaps it serves to help explain her interest in Joan as well.

Finally, I found the line 'Christine de Pizan was a professional writer in the court of King Charles VI of France' several paragraphs down in the article; I moved this to the introductory paragraph where it seemed more suitable. - Grillocracy (talk) 18:58, 26 November 2022 (UTC)