Talk:The Troubles in Kilrea

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Latest comment: 17 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

"We suspect collusion"
"was brutally murdered"
Article seems to focus on loyalist murders.

« Keith ^t/_e » 21:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

thats because loyalist were the 1's repsonbile for killings in kilrea if you dont like it fine but you will have to live with it!!!!!

(Copied from User talk:Keithgreer) That's not strictly true is it? What about Hubert Gilmore (ex-UDR), Thomas Gibson (Irish Rangers) ? I'm not sure if any of the IRA bombs caused any fatalities. « Keith ^t/_e » 21:31, 3 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

yes well u can add that but i was going throw maghera and all them areas and all they have up is provisonal IRA bombs killed such and such how is that fair keeping them 1's up and not these tell me??????????

That's because generally these The Troubles in... pages should only contain incidents "resulting in two or more fatalities". « Keith ^t/_e » 21:36, 3 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

that dosent make sense there are 2 fatalities there its not fair us cathoilcs hace a say in things to its 40 years kieth wise up!!!!!!!

This debate seems to be focusing on the wrong things - its not a question of who was murdered or by whom - in this case its a question of the use of non-neutral language, the lack of any references and the listing of single death incidents where the article starts off saying incidents with two or more fatalities are listed. Previously there has been major debate about fatality listing (see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Troubles in Moneymore and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Troubles in Tynan with people seeking to delete all such articles completely. We managed to stave that off (and I added 98 articles all referenced and using CAIN as a neutral source), but this article does nothing to help the cause of retaining Troubles articles. Strictly this one could be deleted as it does not cite any references, uses non-neutral language and does not meet the agreed policy (two fatalities or more) of adding articles - the consensus was that listing every fatality was just too big a job and undesirable. Meet these criteria or remove the article. Ardfern 18:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)Reply