Talk:The Underground Resistance

Fenrez skazal, chto nihuya ne crust budet — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.201.204.109 (talk) 00:06, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Genre

Well, it seems this page has drawn some genre warriors. Almost all of the reviews call this a heavy metal album that touches on a number of styles/genres. IPs hav' been adding some of these styles/genres to the infobox, while ignoring the other ones. One IP has even added "first wave black metal", which isn't a genre but a metal scene that ended in the 1980s.

The infobox is for listing the main, overarching genre of the album. It's not for listing every single style that the album touches on. The main, overarching genre of this album is heavy metal, so that's all that should be in the infobox. All the other styles can be listed in the main body of the article. ~Asarlaí 20:42, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

I've read all this reviews, and most of them say it does resemble the sound of the classic heavy metal, but in all actually it is speed metal, thrash metal, and black metal with a dose of punk influences. Also, this is not provided by a source but I do believe first wave black metal is an actual genre. It was used to describe a sound that bands like Venom, Celtic Frost, Merciful Fate and similar bands used to play. Bands stopped playing this style by the end of the '80, but darkthrone brought it back. This record stylistically is the most similar to Venom's Black Metal, of coarse it does have some other influences as well but the overall genre is speed metal, thrash metal and first wave black metal. My goal is not to be a genre warrior, but clearly it's not just heavy metal. It only resembles from times the sound of classic heavy metal, but it's as cited before speed metal, thrash metal and first wave black metal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.138.184.236 (talk) 16:36, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia. On Wikipedia we must go by what most reliable sources say, not what we think ourselvs, and we must keep a neutral point-of-view...

You've admitted (not once, but twice) that you're going agenst what most sources say and adding genres based on your own opinion: "most of them say it does resemble the sound of the classic heavy metal, but in all actually it is speed metal, thrash metal, and black metal with a dose of punk influences" ... "this is not provided by a source but I do believe first wave black metal is an actual genre". ~Asarlaí 21:23, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Actually, this is a black metal album. It is not first wave, it is black metal inspired by its first wave. Heavy metal usually describes traditional heavy metal, heavy metal with a melodic, heavy sound. Bands such as Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Led Zeppelin, Judas Priest, Deep Purple, Ozzy Osbourne, Dio are all heavy metal. On The Underground Resistance, the riffs are fast and thrashy, like those of old school black metal bands such as Venom. There is also a lot of Celtic Frost and Mercyful Fate influence. There is a use of harsh vocals on here as well. There are the clean vocals indicative of heavy metal, but there are many uses of Celtic Frost style rasp shouts. This cannot be defined as heavy metal only. It is really a black metal album in an old school style. One better, kind of in between classification could be extreme metal. By saying that it is extreme metal, it is left open to interpretation. It could be thrash, death, black etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iron Wizard13 (talk • contribs) 05:00, 26 November 2015 (UTC)