Talk:The Yale Alley Cats

Relevant information to be added to the page

The following information is relevant to the subject of the wikipedia article and ought to be included:

• Information about previous tour location
• More detailed information regarding notable alumni

This information should be included, as other articles about similar groups include this information:

Articles with notable alumni:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Duke%27s_Men_of_Yale#Notable_alumni
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spizzwinks#Notable_alumni
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_Tigertones#Notable_alumni
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Harvard_Krokodiloes

Articles with tour locations:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_Glee_Club#Tours
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_Nassoons#Tours

This information is included in these articles for good reason, in that readers who seek out these articles about these organizations are interested in such information. Therefore, such information ought to be included in the Yale Alley Cats' wikipedia page as well.

DZhao42 (talk) 01:25, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for using the talk page to discuss these things. I would suggest that "readers who are interested in such information" as tour dates and locations can click on your website, which is linked in the external links section appropriately, and find out such information there if you choose to include it. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a directory or website for any organisation. Similarly, just because other lists are written in certain ways is not a reason to include things here - see WP:OSE. If a person is notable enough to have their own wikipedia article, then I think a link to that article is sufficient for the purposes of naming them as a member/former member of a group or institution, as their achievements can be read about there. What is appropriate here would be information linked to their membership of this group, so the year and perhaps if they had some significant role. Other editors might think a very brief description of their occupation/reason for notability is also appropriate and that is the kind of thing that can be suggested and discussed here, but when we start getting multiple-line descriptions using adjectives or awards I think that is inappropriate and excessive. Thanks, Melcous (talk) 04:22, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

In WP:OSE, the argument is made that, as Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, entries for similar pages should be consistent in format and type of information provided. I quote directly from the page: "these comparisons are important as the encyclopedia should be consistent in the content that it provides or excludes". Given the principle listed in WP:OSE, it is not unreasonable to request consistency across these articles.DZhao42 (talk) 04:55, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

To add to my above comment, a quick tagline description of a significant person is warranted in order to provide context. The goal here is to facilitate the reader's ability to acquire relevant information quickly. I fail to see how removing a tagline description of people in a list is beneficial to the reader's experience on the page. This would be why every single other such list that exists includes these short biographical taglines and have not been removed by administrators. (And furthermore note that these pages do also include notable alumni who do not have their own wikipedia articles).

Aside from the above argument, however, I do want to stress again, from WP:OSE, "these comparisons are important as the encyclopedia should be consistent in the content that it provides or excludes". It's unreasonable to have inconsistencies such as these between articles, where a reader reading an article about, say, the Princeton Tigertones would be able to glean more information about the Princeton Tigertones than a reader reading an article about the Yale Alley Cats would be able to about the Yale Alley Cats. It unnecessarily makes the article about the Yale Alley Cats less informative than similar articles about other organizations.DZhao42 (talk) 05:05, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Request for Comment: New WikiProject for A Cappella-related articles

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