Talk:The light on the hill

Copyright

The Chifley Centre did not write the speech. Perhaps someone can guide me here - the speech was delivered (and one presumes written) by Ben Chifley, who died 55 years ago. That means the copyright has expired - correct? Joestella 12:00, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Forgotten people

This is mostly a note to myself - start an article about The forgotten people [1] speech and the Tenterfield Address. Joestella 18:30, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Move the speech to wikisource and merge the rest of the article to the [[Australian Labor

Party]] --Quoth nevermore (talk) 00:04, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Disagree. Timeshift (talk) 06:20, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Reference to Capital Hill?

As far as I can see, the 'hill' in the speech cannot possibly be a reference to Capital Hill (and hence parliament), as claimed in the article. Two reasons: firstly, Chifley explicitly states in the sentence before the hill reference that the labour movement's objective is not simply "making somebody Prime Minister or Premier", but that its objective is the betterment of the people. It hardly makes sense for him to say this and then state, at the crescendo of the speech, that the great and high objective of the labour movement is gaining control of parliament. Also, as the parliament was not located on Capital Hill in 1949, and wouldn't be for almost four decades, the interpretation of 'hill' as a reference to parliament is anachronistic in the extreme. The statement is also unreferenced, and receives no support from the essay on the speech in the external links, so I've removed the sentence from the article and have put it here for future reference.

• The "hill" may be a reference to Capital Hill in the centre of Canberra, Australia's capital city. The hill is today the site of the country's Parliament House.

--Nasica (talk) 01:56, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Is there a hidden attack on Chifley contained in that post nasica? I hope you're not POV-pushing... :) Timeshift (talk) 02:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC)