Talk:The sea in culture/Archive 1

Archive 1

Proposed changes

Petroglyphs depicting boats made of papyrus are among rock art dating back 40,000 years on the shores of the Caspian Sea.

Fix: The sea and ships have been depicted in art ranging from simple drawings on the walls of huts in Lamu, Kenya,[218] to seascapes by Joseph Turner.

The vast majority of your readers would have no idea what this referred to. It is too obscure to be in a brief summary. Petroglyphs of papyrus boats has the minimalist approach covered, as an example and this example, about 300 years old, is of archaeological interest, but not intense significance.

Reducing Turner to a tagged-on name behind the Lamu sgraffiti doesn't do justice to the greatness of his contribution, culturally.

Reduce the numbers of Dutch Sea Painters down to two.

Mention Raft of the Medusa and Winslow Homer

Mention poetry. I looked back into the history of this article and discovered a mention of Masefield. Good Grief! He was mentioned as commenting on Conrad, not as a poet of the sea.

I'll see what I can do. Amandajm (talk) 08:14, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Moved here on advice of Chiswickchap Amandajm (talk) 10:13, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Sources for article expansion

Could use more international music. Even modern pop music in East Asia (like A-Mei) makes frequent reference to the sea. Other places to look for things beyond Wagner and Debussy include here, here, here, and here (particularly "Spanish Ladies" and "The John B. Sails"), although obviously none of them are really RS on their own. — LlywelynII 03:35, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

This sounds very promising: feel free to act on your own suggestions. I could add that as well as sea shanties, traditional and folk songs like 'Admiral Benbow', 'Hearts of Oak' and indeed 'Rule Britannia' are full of the sea. No doubt many other maritime nations than England similarly have sea songs (France? Netherlands? Indonesia? Polynesia?). Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:53, 8 August 2014 (UTC)