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editThe word "theatrology" barely exists in English, and is only used in poorly translated texts by foreign writers. That is why you have only found the word used of scholars from non-English-speaking counties. The invariable terms for the subject in English is "theatre studies", "drama studies" etc. Johnbod (talk) 15:15, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- I stumbled on this article last week when it was in this state. I was also puzzled by the word, and frankly had never heard it before I did a search. Unsure of what to do, I moved it from Theatrologist to Theatrology. I then tried to at least make something coherent out of it. I agree that Theatre studies is probably the most common term for the discipline in English, although "theatrology" is used in some native English texts, e.g. Whitton's study on Moliere and John Hill's study on Ostrovskii. I have no objection to the article being moved to Theatre studies, although it might be useful to include the terms theatrology/theatrologist somewhere in it. I don't know enough about the subject to tell whether theatrology is supposed to a a sub-discipline of theatre studies or the equivalent. Perhaps WikiProject theatre members could shed some light? Voceditenore (talk) 18:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Well, as a play-writer i might help! :) Theatrology may be equivalent of theatre studies, but it shouldn't be regarded as studies, as it have scientific attitude in social sciences... I am not English native speaker, so that may be problem in out best understanding. This part of theatre is known to me only by Theatrology, and not by Theatre science. Also, Konstantin Stanislavski and Chekhov used this term regularly.. --WhiteWriter speaks 18:58, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody doubts it is a current term in the Slavic languages, but almost entirely only in them. Johnbod (talk) 19:16, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- "Theatrology" is not a word known to any native speaker of English nor to any theatre practitioner in the English-speaking world (the same is true of "play-writer"; we say playwright.) This article needs to be merged into some other theatre article, if not simply deleted. — Robert Greer (talk) 10:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- I did rename it Theatre studies, which amazingly we don't have, but WhiteWriter tiresomely moved it back, so I can't repeat. I suppose it could be renamed Drama studies. Johnbod (talk) 10:36, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- We've now got a 3 to 1 in favour of moving it to Theatre studies. There's no reason why it can't be moved back there, if there's consensus for this. I'm not sure if the original move and move back has created a situation where an administrator is needed to make the move because Theatre studies now exists albeit as a redirect. If so, we can list it Wikipedia:Requested moves. Voceditenore (talk) 11:19, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, it needs to go to RM. Johnbod (talk) 12:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- No, you dont need to, if all of you agreed, than i will gladly agree also. As i told you so, i am not the native speaker of English, so you definitively know better. OK, move it to Theatre studies! :) --WhiteWriter speaks 18:21, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, we do; now that Theatre studies redirects here, it can't be moved except after the process. Johnbod (talk) 00:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Done. — Robert Greer (talk) 07:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks Johnbod (talk) 10:16, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Done. — Robert Greer (talk) 07:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, we do; now that Theatre studies redirects here, it can't be moved except after the process. Johnbod (talk) 00:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- No, you dont need to, if all of you agreed, than i will gladly agree also. As i told you so, i am not the native speaker of English, so you definitively know better. OK, move it to Theatre studies! :) --WhiteWriter speaks 18:21, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, it needs to go to RM. Johnbod (talk) 12:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- We've now got a 3 to 1 in favour of moving it to Theatre studies. There's no reason why it can't be moved back there, if there's consensus for this. I'm not sure if the original move and move back has created a situation where an administrator is needed to make the move because Theatre studies now exists albeit as a redirect. If so, we can list it Wikipedia:Requested moves. Voceditenore (talk) 11:19, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- I did rename it Theatre studies, which amazingly we don't have, but WhiteWriter tiresomely moved it back, so I can't repeat. I suppose it could be renamed Drama studies. Johnbod (talk) 10:36, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- "Theatrology" is not a word known to any native speaker of English nor to any theatre practitioner in the English-speaking world (the same is true of "play-writer"; we say playwright.) This article needs to be merged into some other theatre article, if not simply deleted. — Robert Greer (talk) 10:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Nobody doubts it is a current term in the Slavic languages, but almost entirely only in them. Johnbod (talk) 19:16, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Well, as a play-writer i might help! :) Theatrology may be equivalent of theatre studies, but it shouldn't be regarded as studies, as it have scientific attitude in social sciences... I am not English native speaker, so that may be problem in out best understanding. This part of theatre is known to me only by Theatrology, and not by Theatre science. Also, Konstantin Stanislavski and Chekhov used this term regularly.. --WhiteWriter speaks 18:58, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I've removed the POV tag, as this presumably related to the naming dispute, now resolved. I also amended the lede sentence accordingly. Voceditenore (talk) 07:38, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Bit of a mess here. Robert Greer did a cut and paste move which needs to be repaired by merging the histories. I have notified the situation to the Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen where an admin will sort it out. Will people just leave the article alone now and stop moving it back and forth until this has been sorted out. Voceditenore (talk) 10:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I notified User:Anthony Appleyard when I realized. Johnbod (talk) 11:10, 13 June 2011 (UTC)