Talk:Theodore N. Kaufman/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sodabottle (talk) 17:42, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments

1) The article doesn't state explicitly he is jewish? Any particular reason for this (i mean isnt his ethnicity relevant to his claim to fame?)

2) under the auspices of the "American Federation of Peace", an unknown entity of which he was the president and probably only member, Kaufman produced several publications. I dont see a citation for the "probably only member". The next citation is Kaufman's pamphlet "Passive Purchase". I dont think that would support this assertion.

3) The years 1942-86 are a blank. The article goes from his enlistment in US Army to his death 44 years later. With such a large gap, i dont think this would meet the "broad in its coverage" requirement. I realise it is difficult to get details after the brief period of fame is over. But still this is a large gap. Especially since there are three more war years to cover. Was there no mention of him/his works in nazi propaganda after 42?--Sodabottle (talk) 13:43, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

1) I do think its relevant and could be added to the first paragraph.

2) I'll see if I can track down a citation for this.

3) I don't know that there's much to say about Kaufman after the end of the war - Berel Lang states: "when the sequence of events he [Kaufman] set in motion ended, a little more than two years later, he disappeared from public sight as completely as he had been invisible before" I'm not sure that this section could be filled in without original research. The article does discuss the use of his book in Nazi propaganda through 1945, stating: "The Nazi propaganda ministry continued to publish pamphlets, posters and flyers on Kaufman's ideas through the end of the war, and also urged newspapers and public speakers to remind Germans of Kaufman's book." This sentence could probably be moved after the Hanover material so that the chronology is clearer and it could probably also be expanded a bit.GabrielF (talk) 16:53, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Ok. Thats reasonable. Please add the berel lang cite above to say that "he disappeared from public sight" (or something of that effect) to cover those years in the article.--Sodabottle (talk) 03:19, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Review completed. If the 3 point above is incorporated into the text, the article can be promoted to GA status.--Sodabottle (talk) 04:11, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Has this been done? Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 19:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

No.--Sodabottle (talk) 19:57, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I did a search myself and unfortunately found absolutely nothing on him post-1942; you may have to make a judgment call on its status here, I don't think any exists or any will be added. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 16:34, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Ok i closed the review as a failure. Its been over a month and the comments havent been fixed. --Sodabottle (talk) 16:57, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. I just added the citation about his life after the war described above as well as some additional material about the later war years. I think the only outstanding citation issue is that he was probably the only member of the American Federation of Peace. I couldn't find a source for that, but the Time article on Germany Must Perish says: "Germany Must Perish! is his first book. "Strictly a one-man job" (he claims he has no organization, no help, no backers)" I don't know if that's sufficient for the claim about his earlier publications. If not, I can delete the sentence and add another sentence later saying that Kaufman claimed he had no organization or backers behind him. GabrielF (talk) 17:38, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Ok. it would be better to remove the "only member" sentence and add the other one.--Sodabottle (talk) 17:46, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I looked again and the Randall Bytwerk article cited later makes the claim that he was likely the only member so I cited it explicitly. GabrielF (talk) 18:06, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I qualified the statement with that "likely" since I could find no information on the organization, and Kaufman operated alone in his later book. Not 100% sure, though. Bytwerk (talk) 11:45, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Great. That takes care of all the comments and i have closed the GAR as a success