Talk:Third Silesian War/GA1

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Reviewer: Peacemaker67 (talk · contribs) 04:26, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

This article is in good shape. I have a few comments:

• In the lead, I suggest "It was the thirdlast in a series of three"

Done. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• there are chronological issues here created with the Alliances and goals section. Firstly, we have Prussian troops crossing the Saxon frontier on 29 August 1756 in the previous section, but then we go back to Frederick's aims and deployments prior to the invasion. Then we learn about what happened after Saxony was invaded (in para three) and about a treaty in May 1757 in response to that, then in the next section we get information about what happened when Frederick invaded Saxony back in 1756. I think the best way to lay out this information is to do so chronologically, as a thematic approach really isn't suited to a war. I suggest creating a subsection at the appropriate point in the Course section to cover what happened with the Second Treaty of Versailles, and shifting the last two paras of the Alliances and goals section there.

I'll work through this tomorrow. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I've incorporated the parts of the deleted section into their various points in the timeline. Let me know if you have any further recommendations (or if I've got any wikilinks no longer at the first occurrence of a term). -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 23:04, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• when Hanover surrendered, where was the Army of Observation? Or hadn't they appeared as yet?

That's the army that surrendered; I've added a mention. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• suggest "Prussia's control of Saxony for thea time"

Done. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• the Third Treaty of Versailles appears out of chronological order

Okay, I've moved it to the correct point in the timeline. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• once you've introduced him, just use Bevern

Done. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• are Prince Ferdinand of Brunswick and Duke Ferdinand of Brunswick the same guy? If not, link the latter?

Same guy; I've tried to harmonize the names. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• once you've introduced him, just use Keith

Done. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• perhaps mention that Henry was Frederick's younger brother when he is introduced

Good point, done. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• suggest "at the 25 September Battle of Hoyerswerda"→"at the Battle of Hoyerswerda on/of 25 September."
• same for "21 November Battle of Maxen" and "4 December Battle of Meissen" and other examples, in general I don't think this is the best grammar.

Okay, I think I've changed all of these, but let me know if you spot any I've missed. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• suggest "Frankfurt an der Oder for want of supplies" as it hasn't been mentioned for some time

Done. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• suggest "but neither did she rejoin the war on the Austrian side"→"but she did not rejoin the war on the Austrian side"

Done. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• rather than Elector Augustus, I suggest sticking to Frederick Augustus as earlier.

Done. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Still to look at images and sources. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:48, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

• sources look fine. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:14, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
• File:Battle of Leuthen 2.jpg, File:Schlacht-Kolin-1.jpg and have inadequate licensing

I've updated the license on File:Battle of Leuthen 2.jpg and replaced File:Schlacht-Kolin-1.jpg with File:Erstes pr. Bataillon Leibgarde in Schlacht bei Kollin.jpg, which has a better license. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• what is the source of the information on File:Crown of Bohemia 1648.png?

I'm not sure if you're asking about the source of the image or of the caption. The image is a recolored detail from File:Holy_Roman_Empire_1648.svg, which is the original work of a Wikipedian, based principally on a public-domain map of the HRE in 1648 taken from the same atlas as File:Map for the Silesian and Seven Years Wars.jpg, while the caption is just a description of the contents of the map, pointing out that it reflects pre-First Silesian War borders. Does that answer your question? -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I mean the source used to create the map. It should be included in the Description field. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:44, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

That link is already included in the image's "source" field, but with no explanatory text (just a bare URL); I'll add some words. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 23:04, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• who was the author of File:Schlacht bei Roßbach.jpg

Haha all the paintings with good licenses are painted with a pro-Prussian tilt! Commons gives the source of that image (a book of art related to Frederick the Great found in Prussian palaces), but it doesn't specify the artist, and I haven't been able to find it in the website for the museum it's housed in, and Google Books has no preview of the art book the scan comes from. On Commons I'm also seeing this excellent but decidedly pro-Prussian painting of Seydlitz's charge (also without a known artist or date), and two portraits of Seydlitz before the charge (with good licensing, but which place too much emphasis on him personally), and images of monuments to the battle. Er, does any of these seem acceptable? It'd be a shame to have no art for such a key event, but, of course, we need good licensing. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Either of the Seydlitz paintings would be ok with PD-art and PD-old-auto-1923 I would think. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:04, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I've swapped in File:Friedrich Wilhelm von Seydlitz Prussian Cuirassiers Seven Years War.jpg and updated some captions. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 23:04, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

• File:HGM L Allemand Gideon von Laudon Kunersdorf.jpg and File:Johann Esaias Nilson Hubertusburger Frieden ubs G 0335 II.jpg need a US-PD licence

Done, along with a bunch of organizational work on Wikidata and Commons... -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

That's me done. Placing on hold for the above to be addressed. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:31, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the review! I'll have time to address these over the next two days. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 17:55, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I think I've hit all the points. Let me know if you'd like any further changes. -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 23:04, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

This article is well-written, verifiable using reliable sources, covers the subject well, is neutral and stable, contains no plagiarism, and is illustrated by appropriately licensed images with appropriate captions. Passing. Nice work! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:47, 17 April 2019 (UTC)