Talk:This Is Us season 4

Episode Summary Lengths

I noticed that Brojam had added plot tags for length to episodes 4, 8, and 9, but that this had been reverted by an IP user without comment. As the original author of those summaries, I had noticed that subsequent editing had padded those summaries out to greater than the 200-word guideline length, and in searching the edit history I found the plot tags. I pared these three summaries back down to 200 words each. In some cases, the text does now hew closer to my original text. However, when I saw additions that seemed to add meaningful content to the article, I did my best to preserve their intent even if I shortened the passages. --DavidK93 (talk) 19:47, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! - Brojam (talk) 19:57, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

After my edits, though, I see that an IP user edited the article to restore a couple of the longer passages. The Episode 7 and 9 summaries, after my edits, had been at exactly the guideline length of 200 words. I know that is not an obligatory limit, although I try to hold to it when I edit episode summaries. But in this case, it appears that the longer versions of the text serve only to be longer, without adding content that justifies greater length. The changes are as follows:

• Episode 7

From: Kevin perceives Nicky as Jack.

To: Kevin starts hearing Jack speaking through [sic] him through Nicky.

• Episode 9

From: She agrees to see a doctor.

To: This leads her to agree with him that she needs to see a doctor.

The change in E7 appears to introduce interpretation to the summary, since it's not clear if Kevin believes he is actually receiving communication from Jack, or if he's just perceiving a similarity between Jack and Nicky. What's shown on the screen is Nicky as Jack, so I think the shorter description is also more accurate. The change in E9 adds text that, to me, is redundant. The summary for the previous episode states in part, "When [Randall] suggests [Rebecca] see a doctor, she is defensive and they exchange unkind words." So if the E9 summary states that she talks to Randall and "agrees" to see a doctor, it's not ambiguous that she's "agreeing" with Randall's previous suggestion to that effect. If stating that Rebecca "agrees" to do this could really be unclear as to what she's "agreeing" with, it would be simpler to change it to "She decides to see a doctor." --DavidK93 (talk) 17:53, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

DavidK93, since the edits in question were made unilaterally and made the episode descriptions longer than the recommended Wikipedia parameters for the same, I have gone ahead and reverted the changes so the shorter summary stands, and invited anyone disagreeing with that action to take up the matter here. I agree that the summaries need to remain the length that is established by Wikipedia policies, which is why I did that. Thanks for mentioning it here. --Jgstokes (talk) 22:46, 15 December 2019 (UTC)--Jgstokes (talk) 22:46, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Guest vs recurring

How often actor/actress should reappear in the season to be considered recurring? Some of the characters from "Guest" list appeared at least twice (e.g. future Jack's wife), incl. those who guested in previous seasons also (Sophie) and ex-main cast (William). Gevorg89 (talk) 10:32, 9 February 2024 (UTC)