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Emily and Dash was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 28 March 2011 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Thomas & Friends series 15. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.
Toby and Bash was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 28 March 2011 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Thomas & Friends series 15. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.
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Re this revert:
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"Once again, all voice actors returned to voice the characters.Rupert Degas (Butch UK only and Dart, Bertie and Flynn in both the UK and US) joined the voice cast. Degas originally voiced Diesel 10 in Misty Island Rescue, but was replaced by Matt Wilkinsonbecause his voice sounded too scary, camp and theatrical."
Yes, all the voice actors returned to voice the characters. Were this true, it wouldn't be worth mentioning. A new series of a show typically uses the same cast. In this case, of course, after being told the voices are all the same, we are told of one that isn't.
Why was the voice changed? (The IP editor needs to learn to cite sources, of course.) The blog interview* has the voice actor saying "someone felt my voice was a bit too scary, and someone else thought it was too camp, and someone else thought it was too theatrical." Wow. So that's three opinions from three anonymous sources. The editor distilled this to a simple fact. Suppose you ask three random people why there wasn't a Citizen Kane II. One of them says Orson Wells wasn't a good actor. Another says Citizen Kane sucked. The third said the plot made no sense. Would this go in the article as "Orson Wells couldn't act. His film sucked and had a confusing plot."? No, you might quote a film critic who said Well couldn't act. You do not, however, take a random anonymous person's opinion and state it as fact. - SummerPhDv2.021:47, 26 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
Agree with all of this. "Once again, all voice actors..." is just taking up space. It's stating a fact that doesn't need to be stated. The exception, i.e. the changes to the cast, are noteworthy. Agree also that stating as a fact that his voice was X, Y, and Z is flimsy. At best this could be presented as a quotation attributed to Degas, but we're not really getting anything out of it, academically. He auditioned, he landed the role, but then some suits had fussy problems with him and he was replaced. That's how it goes. Imagine if we included this stuff in film articles. "Sally Field was originally signed as the lead, but was replaced after some studio executives felt her voice was annoying." Gimme a break. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:01, 26 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
