Talk:Three-legged crow

Do not "distort" this page with your biased view on history

It is funny that those "Japanese net rights" are exactly look like what they are insisting about Korean people, exclaiming that everything is our nation`s exclusive heritage and other countries are trying to steal it.

Let me get this straight; Tri-legged crow is originated from ancient China and this symbol is spread all over the Asia, including Manchurian countries, Korea(especially 高句麗), and Japan. What I`m trying to say is, there`s no meaning for asserting the exclusive rights for this symbol; it is a common Asian mythology that has a counterpart in many other cultures, like the Phoenix that originally from the traditions of ancient Phoenicia.

By the way, why don`t you stop doing these stupid things and get some 'real' life? it seems quite pathetic.

Nuking Most of the Pop Cult Section From Orbit (it's the only way to be sure)

I understand that those of us with no first-hand exposure to Chinese or Korean or Japan culture outside of anime and mangas marketed and sold exclusively to 13 year old boys will think that listing everything that vaguely resemble a three-legged crow in every issue of InuYasha or _____________ [fill in the blank with some popular video game of the moment] is somehow important. It isn't. First, nothing in Pop Cult was referenced, which means it shouldn't be there to begin with. Secondly, it embarrassing to the rest of us since it gives undue weight to things that are the definition of trivia. Once you break open an actual book (hint, hint) and do some research that would stand up to academic inquiry (and if you're not old enough to know what academic research requires ... how cute!), in other words take mythology seriously -- and by serious I mean cite your references, don't use personal blogs as the only source your information comes from, try using spell-check once in a while -- and then, whatever comic book information you come up with should and will go into this article. Anything else needs to be drop kicked and deleted.Duende-Poetry (talk) 21:42, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Media references outside mythology

I'm not feeling that the Yu-Gi-Oh entry really appropriate here. There are countless things in popular media that could be mentioned, I could add three other series/titles off the top of my head, but that would hardly be properly relevant. For example, I found this page because I was researching the Yatagarasu character of the Touhou series, and as much as I love my Touhou I don't need to see the character again. I want to know about the mythology basis behind it. That's what this article should focus on right? I'm used to wiki and not going to edit anything myself, but if anyone agrees... thought I'd say my piece... --79.79.93.232 (talk) 14:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Article title

Any reason this page isn't located at Yatagarasu? — BrianSmithson 14:33, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

• Well it started out as being about 3-legged birds in East Asian countries, since then its scope seems to have become narrower. Kappa 15:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

We should rewiden it, then. :) — BrianSmithson 15:16, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Name

Changed the name to Samjogo. Oyo321 05:25, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Why? The scope is clearly much wider than Goguryeo. -- Visviva 06:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

The name "three-legged bird" is too vague. Why don't we change it to "Three-legged crow?" Oyo321 22:41, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

New article

Is it possible for me to write a new article under Samjogo? I wish to do research and write an article on the Samjogo, focusing solely on the Korean one, but there already is the "Three-legged bird". Also, typing in "Samjogo" in the search bar brings up this article.

How do I write a new article under "Samjogo" without affecting this article? thanks. Good friend100 22:13, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Right below the title, click the link that says "Redirected from Samjogo." Or just click here. Cheers, -- Visviva 07:29, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Symbol of Goguryeo

Questions: What is the source for this? Is it due to recent archeological finds, or was this relationship acknowledged previously? Is there any reason to believe that it was considered a symbol of Goguryeo by the Goguryeo people themselves? If not, who has considered it to be symbolic of Goguryeo and when?

Anyway, I'm a little puzzled, since I never heard of this before running across this article, and standard Korean encyclopedias don't even seem to have a 삼조고 entry. -- Visviva 07:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Symbol is-

Answer: You're right-there is no concrete evidence for the 삼족오 to have been a symbol of Goguryeo. But, there are recent excavations that do show that the 삼족오 was in a way related to Goguryeo. Today, most Korean schools teach about the 봉황 and 용 but there isn't much to teach about the 삼족오. Oyo321 04:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

rv

Interwikilinks should link to equivalents, not to "as close as we can get". This faulty linkage leads to the bots copying them, and the bots can only be stopped from adding their faulty links in the other wikipedias by removing them from all wikipedias. Since I am sick and tired of reverting the interwiki bots at the wikipedia I usually work on, I removed them and I ask that they stay removed. You can link them inline, if you want (i.e. [[:de:Yatagarasu]], though). --Asthma bronchiale 23:57, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Reliable sources

Could we please get some reliable (i.e. printed) sources for this article? So far, the only sources are three websites. Two sites (each mentioning the fact(?) of the Fenghuang having three legs) do not give sources on their pages. The last site (Chosun.com) is reputedly not an objective source at all, but in fact a Korean nationalist site that gets most of its information from the official, biased Korean government site Korean.net. (See the talk pages on articles on Korean history and geography for this reputation.) I personally have trouble coming across reliable sources that mention the three-legged crow. 24.14.198.8 04:51, 7 August 2007 (UTC) Chris G.

I agree. Seems like a lot of original research to me. Content might as well be split into seperate article, then this one should be deleted. --Asthma bronchiale (talk) 13:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I pulled some dubious material that was only cited by Chosun.com. Feel free to return it with a WP:RS. -- Secisek (talk) 09:51, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Chosun.com is the online website of Chosun Ilbo, a newspaper company with the largest circulation in South Korea. It is a private company with no affiliation with the government or Korean.net. VeryGoodBoy (talk) 01:38, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Fenghuang section moved

Decided to move the Fenghuang Section in to a subsection of the China section to organize it a bit. Hope no one minds. Added in a few pics also. whipsandchains (talk) 02:51, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

China Section

Hi I've cleaned up and updated the China section and added in more references. whipsandchains (talk) 05:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Defamatory language

 Calling someone "infamous" is an opinion, and should not be included on the page. (24.196.228.245 (talk) 00:48, 12 October 2010 (UTC))

"Eduardo Guzman Diaz"

The (now deleted) reference to a certain "Eduardo Guzman-Diaz" in the China section is clearly spoofing, a form of vandalism. The reference was first added, as far as I can see, on 9 October 2010, at which point it simply said, "Eduardo Guzman-Diaz found a fossil of the bird in Cambodia." (see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Three-legged_crow&oldid=389774862) Some ten minutes later, however, the same individual returned to edit the text again, expanding it to say "Though the myth of Yata Garasu is not well known, an infamous archeologist named Eduardo Guzman Diaz, Born in Canada, found a fossil of the legendary bird during the late 90's in North Eastern China," and moving it to the head of the section. (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Three-legged_crow&oldid=389776212) No external source is indicated for this extraordinary assertion, whether the country in question is Cambodia or China; and a Google search turns up no evidence of an archeologist by the name of "Eduardo Guzman Diaz" . . . except, of course, for a handful of references which all clearly are dependent on the tampered article here. (So much for "infamous"!) If the editor who inserted the text wants to return with valid, verifiable sources, fine and well, but otherwise, no more spoofing please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Murasaki Sutibu (talk • contribs) 08:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

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Contest about the Geometry Dash level "Yatagarasu"

Geometry Dash is a popular rhythm-based platforming game featuring a community-driven collection of custom levels.

One of such user-created levels, namingly Yatagarasu[1], happend to feature a depiction of a three-legged crow. As the level sits amongst the most popular of these user-made levels, it appears a Wikipedia editor estimated relevant to quote the level in the headline of the article.

I disagree with such a choice, and since an anonymous user estimated relevant to replace the information after another user deleted it, I hope these explanations will prevent a needless loop of reverts.

I believe this information shouldn't appear on this article because :

It is irrelevant to the article

The average Wikipedia user would read the article about thrree-legged crows to know more about three-legged crows. Relevant information can include its origin, its consistance, its spiritual signification and its impact on the global world.

An occurrence in a videogame is irrelevant to an article concerning mythology. It is, at most, relevant to the players of the game - but the game itself isn't large enough to englobe the entire world, and certainly doesn't share its fanbase with the general audience of mythology. It is therefore not relevant to be placed in an article that isn't already about Geometry Dash, especially not in the headline.

For more information, I suggest reading the Notability guidelines.

It isn't backed up by sufficent sources

The only source provided is a video of the author performing the level successfully. There is no third-party article relating to that video, or even to the level in general (despite that there are news articles talking about the game itself, thus supporting - amongst other factors - the relevance of an article about Geometry Dash).

The fact that something mentions a three-legged crow isn't, by itself, enough to make it relevant to be placed here.

For more information, I suggest reading the Verifiability guidelines, as well as the Notability guidelines linked above.

Similar problems have already been discussed about this page

There have been [[Talk:Three-legged_crow#Media_references_outside_mythology|many] posts on this page about users quoting their favorite game, manga or anime, despite the quotes not being neither relevant to the article nor notable enough to be worth mention in a Wikipeida article.

Please do not re-add the mention about this Geometry Dash level before providing relevant reasons to do so (and observing consensus).

ShivaMaria (talk) 03:27, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

The three-legged crow is a mythological creature of various Asian countries

The three-legged crow is a mythological creature in various mythologies and arts of East Asia. This is not only a Chinese mythological creature. Designating it as such is inconsiderate of other countries. Anyone who claims the three-legged crow as being of 1 specific country is selfish like claiming the Unicorn is exclusively Indian, because it originated from the Indus Valley. -Artanisen (talk) 04:47, 12 September 2021 (UTC)