Talk:Tiddlywinks

An adult game?

Serious modern tiddlywinks is referred to thrice as an "adult game", to distinguish it from the more trivial children's game. Can we find a better term, like "serious tiddlywinks"? It is neither exclusively for adults, nor does it have any of the connotations normally associated with so-called "adult" activities or products!

Done. --Belg4mit (talk) 22:20, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

The Chess Reference

The claim that tiddlywinks is comparable to chess in complexity seems spurious. There are only a handful of games that are played at the level of strategic sophistication of chess. (Go comes to mind). Can we change this claim to compare tiddly-winks instead to something that is more directly comparable?Oliver Crow

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Scholar, Dr.Dennis King claims "Tiddly Winks is more than a movement of hand. It's in fact, a sequence of the soul and mind." King plays Tiddly Winks to help him come up with things to write about in his pamphlets and textbooks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.89.67.73 (talk) 21:48, 27 September 2013 (UTC) Removed chess reference Oliver Crow 07:22, 5 May 2004 (UTC)

I agree with Oliver Crow that the comparison of tiddlywinks to chess is bombastic. For one thing, tiddlywinks is a sport (sort of), since it involves not only strategy but physical skill. But even if we assume winks can be placed with 100% accuracy, I suspect the game less complex---mathematically speaking---than chess. Does anyone think a computer tiddlywink player would need to plan millions of moves ahead? Sympleko (Συμπλεκω) 12:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree. For me, the essential difference between a sport and a game is that playing a sport requires physical interaction with the material: you couldn't play 'winks by post or over the 'net. A much more accurate analogy for me is pool or snooker, where there are tactics - covering pockets or snookering your opponent being comparable to squopping - but the physical ability to execute the chosen shot is the ultimate deciding factor. Garry Kasparov never tried to capture his opponent's bishop but missed! --Gshrimpton 15:55, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Tiddlywinks is indeed a sport. As far as I'm concerned, some sort of physical dextery has to be in place for it to be a sport. Hence, Tiddlywinks is a sport and chess isn't. Whether you think that tiddlywinks is a very good sport is another matter. Triangle e 11:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

There is genuine complexity in the shot choice, thinking several moves ahead. Obviously this is far from the complexity of chess or Go. The sport to which it is most often compared is croquet, though winks has a wider variety of types of shot, and greater strategic complexity. JDAWiseman 16:46, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Tiddlywinks does not have a comparable level of complexity to chess. But that's not what the article says; it says that tiddlywinkers often claim that tiddlywinks has the level of strategy of chess. And they do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.107.138.228 (talk) 20:46, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree that pool (billiards/snooker) is a much better comparison than chess. In pool, the player thinks a few moves ahead and plans his or her shots accordingly, whereas in chess, the player thinks many moves ahead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.53.8.213 (talk) 01:11, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Summary

Is needed. -Slash- 07:38, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed.

Jolly good article by the way. And I mean both jolly and good. Tally ho. Alastair Haines 03:41, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Featured on WWoS

A championship match was famously featured on an episode of the classic Wide World of Sports, the clip was frequently mentioned when the show ended after many decades as an example of the wide variety of coverage. --166.137.132.41 (talk) 21:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Removal of unsourced information

This page had some sources, but a lot of unsourced information with no way of verifying any of it, so in accordance with Jimbo's explicit interpretation of WP:V, I removed it all. --127.0.0.1 17:31, 2 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.59.59.212 (talk)

The generally accepted method of dealing with uncontroversial material of longstanding, which is nevertheless unsourced, is to place a {{cite}} tag, or to find the source yourself and place it. Aggressive removal of unsourced material is reserved for controversial issues or issues with biographies of living persons, Jimbo notwithstanding. Acroterion _(talk) 17:55, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 April 2014

BBC. The Record Breakers with Roy Castle and Norris & Ross McWhirter

ITEM 03: TIDDLYWINKS: Ross visits Quintin-Kynaston School in St John's Wood, London to see some of its pupils set a new world record with a marathon game of tiddlywinks. (FILM: 1m10s)

2.6.167.253 (talk) 07:24, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 14:02, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Squidger count

"Top players may use up to 20 squidgers"? What unsourced, demonstrably incorrect rot! I was once a top player; I still have my pot of squidgers, of which I have just counted there to be 23. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.125.6.108 (talk • contribs)

But did you ever use all 23 in a match, or even bring all of them them? A golfer may own dozens of clubs, but is only allowed to carry 14 in any one round. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.171.123 (talk) 07:02, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

The only mention in the (English) rules states 2.2.6 In a game, though not for a single shot, a player may use more than one squidger so there is no upper limit on the number of squidgers allowed to be taken to or used within a single game. In my own experience, I probably used 4 squidgers for 80% of the shots and had others less-used but for specific types of shots. Spike 'em (talk) 09:44, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 August 2021

This page contains several uses of "he" where singular "they" would work better. HowDoIPickAName (talk) 01:09, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: @HowDoIPickAName: Welcome to Wikipedia! I'm afraid I must decline this request as you have failed to provide it in "please change X to Y" format. Even an attempt on my end to find them myself via a page search is futile as "he" is used by a lot of unrelated words. It is worth nothing that you are extremely close to reaching autoconfirmed status (you only need to make 2 more edits anywhere to qualify) which will grant you access to edit pages of this protection level. Do not let this discourage you, and happy editing! —Sirdog9002 (talk) 01:21, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Tiddleywinks or Tiddledywinks?

Based on the box cover artwork accompanying this article, the correct name spelling of the game is Tiddledywinks. This is not addressed in the article. Thoughts? Batfox (talk) 08:50, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Tiddledy-Winks was the original trademark for the name of the game in Great Britain back in 1890. Tiddlywinks is the current preferred and predominant spelling for the game, since at least the 1950s. There have been other spellings over the years. May I suggest not making a deduction as to the "correct" spelling of the game's name based on viewing a single box cover artwork image that someone posted to Wikipedia. The name of the game has evolved over time. Rick (talk) 01:26, 21 August 2024 (UTC)