Talk:Tigger
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"that" photo
editI love that photo of the plush Tigger,but it really needs cropping and the focus is well, poopy. The cartoon Tigger would be much more approriate (no offence).
The article should probably state that Tigger is not just from one book, but from a series of books, cartoons, and movies. Also, the current image is of a stuffed toy Tigger, not one from the cartoon or book, which might be misleading.
-Gyre
He also appears is some videogames 202.191.106.231 10:27, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
separate Milne's book and Disney characters
editBouncing on tail and songs are added by Disney. Many fans consider that Disney dumbed down the original Milne tongue-in-cheek book into just another children entertainment.
- And so the Disney infomation had been moved to its own article. Disney representation of the Milne character "Tigger"Lkinkade 00:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Discussion of this is at Talk:Winnie-the-Pooh, for lack of a better location. Powers T 18:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, there really should be two seperate pages, one for the original Tigger character and one for the Disney version,as they are quite different. Anyone reading that page would get confused between the two Tiggers.
As a cat name
editI remember reading that Tigger is the most common name for a cat in English speaking countries. Is this true? I am currently living with a Tigger of my own and have met more than a few more over the years so it seems likely. - Ferret 22:48, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
I'ved lived all over the US and haven't met anyone with that cat-name. I know someone who has named thier dog after a human cartoon character. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.177.34.169 (talk • contribs) .
Cites?
editNothing in this article is cited. "Tigger" needs a new, better picture, cites, and a lot of elbow grease. Does anyone want to help? Purple Is Pretty 01:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
In Film
editJust been watching this with my daughter. In the article it says he glued the shingles on with honey -- It looks to me as if he stacks the "bricks" with honey and uses bubble gum to stick the shingles on ... should the article be edited? 77.97.86.125 (talk) 15:24, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
"Voiced by"
editI don't think it's appropriate to list immediately under the bare information that the character was created by AA Milne the voice actors who portrayed Tigger for Disney films without explaining the Disney connection. While this might be 'taken as read' by those (predominantly North Americans) whose knowledge of the character begins and ends with Disney, it doesn't take into account that a) Tigger has been dramatized in productions other than Disney; b) the voices listed have absolutely nothing to do with AA Milne's original concept. Unless some good reasons can be given here for keeping the voices in the box, I propose returning them to an info box in the "In film" section of the article. Alfietucker (talk) 10:44, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, that makes sense. (And ditto at the other Pooh character articles.) Rivertorch (talk) 12:30, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- OK, I've done this in all the articles where "voices" were listed in an infobox (all lacking any explanation that they were exclusively to do with Disney adaptations). Feel free to check and tidy up (infoboxes are not my usual 'stamping ground', but I think those "voices" have no business in the main infobox - what about other voices in other adaptations?). Alfietucker (talk) 14:12, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- Have to look at this later—just heading out the door now. You're probably aware there were some problem edits to these articles recently, resulting in an ANI discussion. I haven't dug deeply into the history yet, but some of these issues may stem from that. Rivertorch (talk) 19:59, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- I confess, though I was aware of not altogether constructive edits (which is what brought me here in the first place), I didn't realize there was an ANI discussion. Sorry if I complicated things at all, and I understand if my 'fixes' need some refinement. Alfietucker (talk) 20:05, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
- Not at all. I just hope I didn't erase any of your changes when I was reverting. I don't think any information related to adaptations belongs in the main infobox. For that matter, I'm not 100% sure that Tigger et al have a nationality per se, if you see what I mean. Obviously, the characters were created by a British author and exist in British books, but can a Tigger really be British? I have no idea. Rivertorch (talk) 06:52, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Is Tigger a Tiger?
editIn these edits a well-meaning editor added a |species=
parameter to Tigger's infobox, and filled in "Tiger". I objected, and without discussion, the user resubmitted the content here. So, the question is: Is Tigger a Tiger? We know he's based on a tiger stuffed animal, but species seems to relate more to the in-universe consideration. I don't believe Tigger thinks he's a tiger, rather a unique species called "Tigger". From an out-of-universe perspective, does he have a species? Wouldn't his species be "stuffed tiger toy". Thoughts? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:42, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm... I can see it both ways, while he calls himself a "tigger" (and claiming to be the only tigger in existence), the animals don't usually pronounce/spell things the correct way (i.e. hunny, jagular), so I'm leaning on the side of Tigger being a tiger. --AmaryllisGardener talk 17:01, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- Appreciate the comment, Amaryllis. We know that Pooh is a Bear, because it's evident in-universe. Piglet, the same. Kanga, Roo, the same. Tigger is a different matter altogether. What we can directly observe is that nobody calls him a tiger in-universe, and in the Disney incarnation, Tigger sings of "The wonderful thing about Tiggers (plural)" which might imply other tiggers (or might not). Contrarily, if we call him a tiger, we are applying our own interpretations to the character. Is Mr. Snuffleupagus a wooly mammoth, or a Snuffleupagus? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:21, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- I'd say Yes, Tigger's a tiger. Maybe include some kind of note there if possible, but his
species=tiger
indeed, and here's (part of) why: To readers and re͝ad-to's of the Pooh books he's pretty obviously a tiger; he certainly was to me! If somebody is trying to remember the name of Christopher Robin's stuffed tiger, or is looking for tiger characters in kids' literature, we should help them find Tigger. --Thnidu (talk) 03:00, 27 May 2015 (UTC)- As always, we should look to reliable sources as a guide in situations like this. I did a quick check of some tertiary sources (Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase & Fable, The Oxford Dictionary of Reference and Allusion, Chambers Dictionary of literary characters, The Oxford Dictionary of Phrase and Fable) and they all describe tigger as a tiger without question/qualification. So I'd say the assumption that tigger is a tiger is pretty widely shared - certainly I don't see any sign that it's been challenged. Fyddlestix (talk) 03:35, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- I'd say Yes, Tigger's a tiger. Maybe include some kind of note there if possible, but his
- Appreciate the comment, Amaryllis. We know that Pooh is a Bear, because it's evident in-universe. Piglet, the same. Kanga, Roo, the same. Tigger is a different matter altogether. What we can directly observe is that nobody calls him a tiger in-universe, and in the Disney incarnation, Tigger sings of "The wonderful thing about Tiggers (plural)" which might imply other tiggers (or might not). Contrarily, if we call him a tiger, we are applying our own interpretations to the character. Is Mr. Snuffleupagus a wooly mammoth, or a Snuffleupagus? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:21, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Created by
editIn the last week or so I've seen numerous attempts to add Walt Disney as a creator of the character. [1][2][3] At least twice by Andres 29, and once by an IP from Montebello, CA. These additions have been reverted, and it's up to Andres and/or the IP to argue for inclusion. How do you figure that Disney "created" a character that already existed in print? The studio may have adapted it, developed it, may have even improved upon it, but there's no sourced prose that indicates Disney (especially the man himself) "created" the character. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:14, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
- Walt Disney didn't create Tigger, A. A. Milne did. Simple as that. Perhaps protection may be needed if this keeps up. BTW, thanks for reverting those edits! --AmaryllisGardener talk 22:10, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Spelling out
editThere have been various botched attempts to reproduce the way Tigger introduces himself:
- ...the proper way to spell his name and that is "T-i-double-'g'-er (T-i-gg-er)", which spells "Tigger".
AIUI, Americans do not use the "double-g" construction to spell a double letter, but British people, including A. A. Milne do. So apart from the unnecessary quotes around 'g', and the missing hyphen, do I understand this is supposed to be "T-I-double-G-E-R"? Is it then really necessary to repeat this to explain to Americans that "double-g" means one g followed by another g? I will go ahead and edit this, but invite comments. Imaginatorium (talk) 08:32, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
- Imaginatorium, In the cartoon (clip on YouTube), he says, "T-i-double-guh-er — that spells 'Tigger'." The g is pronounced rather than named, and the er is pronounced rather than spelled out. I do not know how it was written in the books. — al-Shimoni (talk) 11:18, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
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Proposed merge with The Wonderful Thing About Tiggers
editThis particular song does not meet WP:NSONG and is created solely for the Winnie the Pooh character. AmericanAir88(talk) 02:08, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2021
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This sentence really has poor tone:
He is very confident and has quite an ego, he often thinks of himself as being handsome, and some of his other comments suggest he has a high opinion of himself.
Please improve the tone by replacing it with:
He is very confident, egotistical, narcissistic, and possessed of high self-esteem.
This is also better because the grammatical parallelism is better: "is" goes with all four descriptions that follow. 64.203.186.109 (talk) 21:02, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2021
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Please replace this phrase
possesses high self-esteem to the point of egotistical
with this
possesses high self-esteem to the point of egotism
"Egotistical" is an adjective, and the grammar demands a noun here. 64.203.186.109 (talk) 13:21, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Done. Good spot. Volteer1 (talk) 13:24, 25 March 2021 (UTC)