Talk:Tim Shaw (presenter)

What is this?

The article about a radio presenter who is only known in some parts of the UK as he was a local radio presenter.

Citations needed or a complete reedit making it 10% as long as it is now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.33.230 (talk) 01:03, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

50p Lotus

So what happened to the car? Did the sale go through, or did the wife call it off? Any info on the lucky buyer? Pimlottc 18:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Like every controversial thing he does, it turned out to be a publicity stunt Anon Dude 18:30, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

That's not true! His wife sold his Lotus for 50p, and it went in 5 minutes. DanCrowter 08:35, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Tim's mobile experiment?

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Should it be added in? You know say what the experiment was and what the results were.

Depends, did he get a telling off for it? did he get the results will it get romoved

Mixed views

Tim Shaw had a fan-base but was frequently sacked from stations.

Comment Error

A major point in the pre-kerrang section was wrong. I have corrected this. Link here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/564667.stm

Controversy statement

I'm unsure if the statements are just PR conjecture or genuinely founded. His agency seem to suggest it is founded and it is mentioned numerous times on the show. I don't think there's much reason to doubt it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.43.64.70 (talk) 18:20, 20 February 2007 (UTC).

Next Door

Ween hole next door has now been replaced by Knobholder next door. Someone should correct this. DanCrowter 08:45, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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Shaw sacked?

Tim Shaw is currently not broadcasting on UK radio.

Tim's birthday and birthplace

IMDb states here Tim was born in Sheffield, Yorkshire, on 15 January 1974. Why is this article saying he was born in London on 9 June ? Where is that information from ? I'm going to add a "citation needed" template until someone can prove his actual birthday and birthplace. Clausgroi (talk) 01:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Tim Shaw was born in London, his family did not move to Sheffield until 1979. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitworth28 (talk • contribs) 21:37, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Early Life info taken from Tim's Website

I have removed the early life section as it contains information taken from Tim's official bio. I can't seem to find any other reliable sources that back up any of this. Also the Bio on Tim's website contains statements such as "In fact, nearly all of his wages have been used to facilitate the building of huge personal engineering projects" and " He is still the only person in the UK to get 100% in A-level and GCSE Design and Technology." which points to the fact this might be a little unreliable as a source.

You can't classify a source as "unreliable" without proper reason. The information was taken from the official website of the very person who is featured in the article. If we are to doubt that kind of data, then all birth dates that are taken from the person's bio at his/her website should be removed from every Wikipedia article, which sounds illogical. There is no reason to believe Tim is lying about these things in his website, although it is possible that he would. National Geographic UK backs up some of the information in his site. Other 2 sources: [1] and [2]. Besides, I see nothing wrong with "nearly all of his wages have been used to facilitate the building of huge personal engineering projects", although "He is still the only person in the UK to get 100% in A-level and GCSE Design and Technology" is a remarkable feat that would require further evidence before being added to the article (which I didn't do in my last edit). Clausgroi (talk) 23:11, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

I see you have readded the information which is fine, sorry it took so long for me to reply. The reason I think we shouldn't include the information is because they are from his personal website. A lot of the claims are quite exceptional and I can find no information backing them up. For example he says he was young engineer of the year but there are multiple different "Young Enigneer" awards this could be. Also he say's he was "certfied" as a creative genius. How do you get certified as a creative genius. Does he have a certificate somewhere. Looking at the verifiability criteria they seem to fail the first point that they are not unduly self-serving. I think we can agree that all the information is pretty self serving. Would you be happy removing some of the more exceptional stuff such as the "Creative Genius" claim and that he invented the foldable walking stick and rubber ice tube trays? LenTheWhiteCat 08:20, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

You say "The reason I think we shouldn't include the information is because they are from his personal website", but there is nothing wrong about that. Out of the 5 criteria that have to be matched on self-published sources, the only one that could be argued about is the first. And even that one could depend on interpretation. I don't think the claims you're objecting to are "quite exceptional" because they are all possible and even probable. Most of them I didn't even add to the article, just the ones about his childhood and adolescence.

He says he was certified was a "creative genius" by that association and we have no reason to doubt it, although it would be nice if he could provide evidence. If you remove that information from the article, you have to remove him being an engineer as well. You could argue "where is his diploma ?? He could be lying about that". You can't cherry pick what to believe/accept.

As for external sources, I cited 3 already and found another one that covers the information I added to the article: [3]. I think that's enough, but if you find more reliable sources, mainly regarding his prizes and certifications, be sure to add them here to improve the article. Don't forget that our goal is the same. Clausgroi (talk) 16:20, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

A lot of his early life looks to be made up?

Like for instance

He was named "Young Engineer of the Year" twice, in 1992 and 1994, for innovative inventions.

This appears to be completely false, https://www.nspe.org/membership/about-nspe/awards/young-engineer-year-award-recipients

I suspect this section needs a complete rewrite based upon established and properly cited information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:1D41:AC00:AC8F:D37A:6E1:8663 (talk) 21:56, 1 February 2017 (UTC)