Talk:Timbits
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editIs this topic worthy on an encyclopedia entry? I don't believe it is. 70.66.117.28
Agree
editI agree,too this entry should be deleted. Are we going to start putting in entries for all food chain's menu items???
Disagree
editI got here because I saw the word "Timbits" and had no idea what it meant. So, Wikipedia, and now I know. Philip 06:20, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
- This is a well-known national chain. I doubt there's any Canadian who can speak who can not tell you what a Timbit is. If over 20 million people know about it, shouldn't others have the same opportunity?
Right now it's a copy vio, but someone should re-write and expand.Ifnord 22:43, 7 November 2005 (UTC) - I think it should stay. They have an entry for Big Mac, why not for Timbits? Gadig 11:17, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
- As an American living in Canada, I can attest to the impact of Timbits. They are very much a part of Canadian culture, and as such, deserve an entry here. And as stated above, Big Mac has a page, Timbits are much more a part of the Canadian national scene than the Big Mac is in the U.S. In fact, Tim Hortons, with 2,540 outlets in Canada and 273 in the U.S. is the second largest donut chain in the world, far surpassing Krispy Kreme or Winchell's. Techdavis 02:13, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
- Timbits are a cultural entity very specific to Canada. This article is, above all, useful because it describes a trivial fact which people from outside Canada may not be privy to. 205.251.166.208 17:35, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- I think it should stay. They are CRUCIAL to Canada. If you don't want a doughnut, eat a Timbit.
- Timbits are a pop culture reference. In the CBC show "Rick Mercer's Talking to Americans" they mention a (false) tradition of pummeling moose to death with timbits. For any viewers outside of Canada this reference would not be understood. Wikipedia is for reference, right? 70.75.218.93 (talk) 03:22, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
copyvio?
edithuh. I don't get it. that page gets its info from this one: "This entry is from Wikipedia, the leading user-contributed encyclopedia. It may not have been reviewed by professional editors (see full disclaimer)" am I missing something? getcrunk juice 00:52, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
- No, it's not a copyvio - I've removed the notice. Mindmatrix 01:53, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
- Mindmatrix has educated me regarding copyvio and sites which mirror Wiki. My bad. Ifnord 02:07, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
Unhealthy Slant?
edit"Timbits, as well as all Tim Horton's donuts, are made in 100% hydrogenated vegetable oil, which contributes to their unhealthy levels of Trans Fat." This part of the entry seems to be slanted (biased). If not, I think it should be re-worded to introduce proper scientific terms at least. h3h 14:55, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I reworded the original one wich was entirely slanted against Tim Hortons to something not slanted against TH. I agree it needs to be reworded.
Just to say,
edit"Timbits" is the best name evar.</will be deleted>
100% Hydrogenated Oil
editIt is extremely valuable to know which restaurants and businesses use Hydrogenated Oil as trans fat in oil, which is caused only by hydrogenation, is proven to cause cancer and the recommended daily dosage of trans fat is supposed to be 0 grams. I think it would be helpful if people could include whether or not a restaurant or product uses hydrogenated oils in their wiki articles.
NPOV and source
editThe way this is worded in the article is not NPOV. "Timbits, as well as all Tim Horton's donuts, are made in 100% hydrogenated vegetable oil, which contributes to their unhealthy levels of Trans Fat." Also there is no source for this. I will correct this sentence.
- It still has a tone that strikes me as biased. Perhaps some one with the inclination would like to browse other unhealthy food articles for how they word similar warnings. As it stands now it seems a little preachy. And the instructions to check the manager seem a little How-To. Something like "Doughtnut balls, as well as most donuts from donut shops, are often made in hydrogenated vegetable oil, which can lead to consuming unhealthy amounts of trans fat. -Explain briefly why this is bad, or point to an article- " Also a reference would be nice :) Mr. Cat 05:06, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed - the words "are most likely made" are definitely unacceptable. I'm not even sure the cooking method should be mentioned, unless it is in some way different and unique from any other doughnut; this is an information article, not one on food nutrition. Fmgazette 18:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- According to Tim Horton's Canadian and US nutrition guides http://www.timhortons.com/en/menu/menu_info.html (note: they are in PDF format) all the varieties of timbits contain "0" trans fats. I would expect this information to be accurate as companies are supposed to disclose this information (it's like the labels that end up on food packaging).156.34.220.193 00:25, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
- With the information provided above, i'm going to take out the trans fat part in the article unless, there are objections. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.100.64.34 (talk) 04:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC).
- According to Tim Horton's Canadian and US nutrition guides http://www.timhortons.com/en/menu/menu_info.html (note: they are in PDF format) all the varieties of timbits contain "0" trans fats. I would expect this information to be accurate as companies are supposed to disclose this information (it's like the labels that end up on food packaging).156.34.220.193 00:25, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed - the words "are most likely made" are definitely unacceptable. I'm not even sure the cooking method should be mentioned, unless it is in some way different and unique from any other doughnut; this is an information article, not one on food nutrition. Fmgazette 18:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Article move
editThis article was moved to "doughnut holes". Given past AfD discussions, where it was the consensus that it was appropriate to have a separate article article for Timbits, given the notability of the product, this article should not be moved absent any new consensus to do so. Wikipedia contains a number of articles pertaining to specific fast food products (for example, Big Mac, Whopper and Big Classic are not merged into Hamburger). Skeezix1000 (talk) 18:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Tim Hortons employee fired for giving a free Timbit
editA 27-year-old single mom in London, Ontario has been fired (and re-hired) for giving a Timbit to a baby. [1] Maybe we could mention that in the article? Canjth (talk) 21:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- It's already mentioned in the Tim Hortons article, where it is perhaps more relevant. In any event, my general concern with adding references to such short-lived news stories to articles is that the article quality begins to suffer from recentism. Skeezix1000 (talk) 11:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
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"in April 1976, shortly after Tim Horton's death in 1974"
editEh?
This is Wikiweirdness at its peak. First, 1976 is not shortly after 1974. Secondly, what is the relevance of Tim Horton's death to the introduction of this product line? Douglas Jardine (talk) 15:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
YUMMY!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.236.231.9 (talk) 16:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
I think that it may be a reference to a false story I have heard several people tell. Basically, some people claim/joke that the name is in poor taste, claiming that Timbits were introduced around the time that Tim Horton died in a car accident. As noted, the story is false.99.248.171.62 (talk) 05:17, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Edit Request
edit{{Request edit}}
I am a summer student working at the head office of Tim Hortons Inc. I would like to suggest a change to the sentence: "However, due to Tim Hortons' place in Canadian culture, Timbits is often used as a generic term for these in Canada, even when they are purchased from another chain".
There is no support for the statement that "Timbits" is a generic term. On the contrary, the term is a registered trademark and defended by the company. I would suggest the following edit:: "However, due to Tim Hortons' place in Canadian culture, Timbits are very well-known. Tim Hortons has even registered Timbits as a trademark in Canada and in the US."
Here is a source link to the Canadian Office of Intellectual Property Trademarks Database (the Timbits page): http://www.cipo.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/vwTrdmrk.do?lang=eng&status=OK&fileNumber=0776357&extension=0&startingDocumentIndexOnPage=1
Also, here is a source link to the US Patent and Trademarks Office Trademarks Database - type "Timbits" into the Basic word mark search: http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4003:d5rh2n.1.1
- Done TOW talk 18:25, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- While I don't particularly care about whether it's in the article or not, I think it was a bad call that you made the change. Working for Tim Horton's you lack objectivity. Unless it's a glaring error, people should not be editing articles for issues that they might be biased towards.
- I don't think this edit falls into that camp. The fact of the matter is that a lot of Canadians tend to refer to all doughnut holes as timbits. Now Tim Horton's corporate has a little less to worry about when it comes to protecting its trademark since most of the time Canadians get their timbits from Timmy's but despite the company's best wishes it has entered Canadian vernacular. The term doughnut hole has basically been superseded by timbits in Canada.
- Having a trademark doesn't change that fact. In fact, that's really the point: Tim Horton's trademarked a term that Canadians use to refer to all timbit-like products. That's like kleenex, windex, jello, etc. It's become a word synonymous to doughnut hole, not a word used just to refer to the Tim Horton's variant.
- I also think it's kind of funny that you took out that unsupported sentence but didn't remove or put in a source about the "bit" being an acronym. I've never heard that before and while it's certainly a cute story, it sounds a lot like something a marketing team came up with after they were already named. But hey, if that's not the case, it'd be nice to see some evidence that it's true and not simply claimed to be true in an ad campaign.91.182.194.103 (talk) 01:34, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Redirect?
editWhy isn't this just a redirect to Doughnut#Doughnut holes just as Teflon (an even better known brand) is redirect to Polytetrafluoroethylene? What makes this brand so notable that it warrants its own article?--ukexpat (talk) 03:47, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- Why doesn't Big Mac redirect to hamburger, or Diet Coke redirect to diet soda? Where there is a notable product, it's not unusual to see a separate article on Wikipedia - yes, we are not always consistent, but we tend to make these decisions on a case-by-case basis. If some editors felt that there was enough material to write an appropriately-sourced article on Teflon the brand, as distinct from the more general polytetrafluoroethylene topic, then they wouldn't necessarily be precluded from doing so (the comparable there being the separate article we have on Band-Aids, even though in much the same manner as teflon, the word is usually used to refer to all adhesive bandages). In any event, the Timbits issue was subject to a fairly lengthy discussion, and the consensus at that time was to keep. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:59, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- I can see that Big Mac and Diet Coke have notability separate from the generic product and I would argue that Teflon does too, but Timbits? Seem grossly inconsistent to me. And, to be frank, most if the comments at the Afd were more "I like it" than focussing on its independent notability.--ukexpat (talk) 13:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- I would disagree. First, your assessment of the AfD is off the mark, although it is an old one. But if it makes you that unhappy, start a new one. Second, in parts of Canada, the word timbit is used as the generic term for doughnut holes, given how popular and well-known a product it is. Remember, Canada is a country where Tim Hortons dwarfs McDonald's. They may not have the worldwide notability of Big Mac and Diet Coke, but that's not the Wikipedia threshold (the encyclopedia is full of stuff like Kiwiburger), and timbits definitely have notability separate from the generic product. The article does need a lot of work, as it really isn't much more than a stub, but that's largely a separate issue - I will sometime over the next few weeks get some better sources and information in there to at a minimum make the notability clear. And, again, if you are worried about gross inconsistency, then create an article on teflon.Skeezix1000 (talk) 13:23, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- I can see that Big Mac and Diet Coke have notability separate from the generic product and I would argue that Teflon does too, but Timbits? Seem grossly inconsistent to me. And, to be frank, most if the comments at the Afd were more "I like it" than focussing on its independent notability.--ukexpat (talk) 13:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
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Additions to the page
editHello!
I have additional information to add to the page about Timbits about the collaboration of Justin Bieber and Tim Horton creating the Timbiebs. The following additions are below:
In November 2021, Tim Hortons announced a collaboration with Canadian pop star Justin Bieber to release three limited time flavours along with collaborative merchandise. The November 29th release saw chocolate white fudge, sour cream chocolate chip, and birthday cake waffle Timbiebs become available in Canadian and American Tim Hortons. Participating Tim Hortons franchises also sold the Timbiebs branded tote bag, toque, and fanny pack. A French and English television ad also released at the time of the announcement in mid-November.
According to Tim Hortons Chief Marketing Office Hope Bagozzi, the collaboration talks began after Bieber took to Instagram discussing the coffee chain’s lid change in 2019. Bieber said "Doing a Tim Hortons collab has always been a dream of mine" in a statement following the collaboration announcement, and that Timbiebs were his “go-to” Tim Hortons item.
The collaboration garnered media and fan attention, with many expressing their love for the new flavours. Then-CEO of Restaurant Brands International, Tim Hortons’ parent company, José Cil called the collaboration “one of the more successful traffic-driving initiatives in recent memory” which generated “unprecedented social engagement” in RBI’s Q4 2022 results.
These are the sources used to collect this information:
https://vancouversun.com/entertainment/celebrity/justin-bieber-timbits-have-launched-at-tim-hortons
https://canadianbusiness.com/people/justin-bieber-timbits-tim-hortons/
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/bieber-tim-hortons-deal-1.6243865 Katdonnelly44 (talk) 14:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)