Talk:Timeless Test

Latest comment: 8 months ago by 155.190.13.13 in topic Clarification of meaning

Timeless non-Tests

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It's worth noting that there were also timeless matches outside Test cricket, such as this one in the 1913-14 Sheffield Shield. Loganberry (Talk) 01:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Dispute over whether the first test match was timeless

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There is an archived report on the first test match at https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/from-the-archives-1877-mcg-hosts-the-first-international-test-match-20220310-p5a3h9.html that says that the first test match was played over four days of four hours each with nearly an hour for a lunch break:

"Great complaints were made, too, about the adjournment of the players for lunch. It was said, and very justly too, that commencing so late as one o’clock and not playing after five was little enough time in all conscience to devote to so important a match; but when nearly an hour is deducted from that it becomes really absurd."

This means that the first test match was not timeless 60.240.112.70 (talk) 00:27, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

The match was advertised in advance as a four-day match. See The Argus, 10 March 1877: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5915492 Sammyrice (talk) 05:23, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. I found the following about the second Test match, which was also a four day match:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5917077?browse=ndp%3Abrowse%2Ftitle%2FA%2Ftitle%2F13%2F1877%2F03%2F29%2Fpage%2F245547%2Farticle%2F5917077
The following also says the test match in 1878-79 was also a three day match:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5926825?browse=ndp%3Abrowse%2Ftitle%2FA%2Ftitle%2F13%2F1879%2F01%2F01%2Fpage%2F251294%2Farticle%2F5926825 14.203.71.54 (talk) 22:50, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Clarification of meaning

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As someone that isn't a expert, or even knowledgeable, in cricket, I was confused by the first line saying "the match is played until one side wins or the match is tied, with theoretically no possibility of a draw", given that in many (most?) sports a "tie" and a "draw" mean the same thing.

I understand on further searching that they have specific meanings in cricket, but perhaps some sort of clarification could be added to the lead to avoid similar confusion for others? 155.190.13.13 (talk) 04:31, 8 March 2024 (UTC)Reply