Talk:Timeline of Shakespeare criticism
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I created this article today as a spin-off from Shakespeare's reputation, which is getting long. Please add to it, especially at both ends! It's fairly fat around the middle, but at this moment it only goes from 1668 to 1841. If possible, please also complement each addition with an e-text link.--[[User:Bishonen|Bishonen (talk)]] 19:52, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Tolstoy on Shakespeare
editWhen the article is brought up to date with more recent historical periods, Tolstoy's opinion should be mentioned. See Tolstoy as cited, e.g., by George Orwell in his essay, found at http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/O/OrwellGeorge/essay/leartolstoyfool.html :
... [Tolstoy] saying that throughout life Shakespeare has aroused in him ‘an irresistible repulsion and tedium’.
Tolstoy had (much) more to say about Shakespeare. But that is a good starting point.
To List, or To Prose?
editShould this article really be a simple list of quotations? Wouldn't it be better to turn it into a "real" article discussing critical commentary over the years? There certainly should be enough material out there for this, and then we'd avoid requests for deletion or suggestions to move it to WikiQuotes. --Xover (talk) 06:20, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
List of quote with no commentary would be ideal.Mantion (talk) 07:02, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
- WP:NOTCATALOG: If you want to enter lists of quotations, put them into our sister project Wikiquote.
- WP:RSPRIMARY: Although specific facts may be taken from primary sources, secondary sources that present the same material are preferred. Large blocks of material based purely on primary sources should be avoided. Proeksad (talk) 11:10, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Harold Bloom
editI think adding a couple of quotes from Harold Bloom would improve the article. Wouldn't you agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BombaMolotov (talk • contribs) 07:27, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'd say go ahead. Don't make them too lengthy, though, or we run into copyright problems. Short attributed quotations are fine. There seems to be a school of thought that the style of this article (all quotations) isn't appropriate for an encyclopedia. However I wouldn't worry about that too much either: if that argument does prevail the chances are the contents of this page would be "transwiki'd". AndyJones (talk) 11:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- Bleh. It's a start, I guess. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BombaMolotov (talk • contribs) 08:16, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Jean-Claude Carrière?
editI move to delete the Jean-Claude Carrière reference. Is he really going to stand in for the past decade of Shakespearean criticism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.42.225.242 (talk) 14:13, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
POV, where is the criticism
editfor an article named CRITICISM, where exacly is the criticism? massive overhaul is needed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.225.101.102 (talk) 17:11, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with you, 109.225.101.102, there is no criticism. Maybe it should be renamed Timeline of views on Shakespeare.Fcbbminiestadi (talk) 14:10, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- I think you may be misunderstanding the article's title: it refers to literary criticism, not "negative views of Shakespeare". --Xover (talk) 08:56, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
- No, the problem is that it's a collection of mostly positive quotes, without commentary or context. Pope, for instance, didn't just praise Shakespeare--he also rewrote many of Shakespeare's lines, because he didn't like them. Drmies (talk) 18:53, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- I think you may be misunderstanding the article's title: it refers to literary criticism, not "negative views of Shakespeare". --Xover (talk) 08:56, 15 November 2017 (UTC)