Talk:Timeline of chess

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• 79-8 BC - lifespan of Liu Xiang 劉 向, author of Shuo yuan: "Do you still feel like playing Xiangqi and dancing?" Earliest known literary reference to a recognized chess variant: Xiangqi. Sources: Meng Changjun Played Xiangqi and Danced with Lady Zheng, The History of Xiangqi and 7. Reference Guide to Classical Book Titles: (3) Sinological Indexes: Other Indices: Shuo yuan..
• 2nd & 4th century - earliest known Chaturanga-looking pieces (elephant piece). Amazingly similar in appearance, yet countries and centuries apart. See The first Persian, Arab and Russian chessmen.
• 5th century - Earliest known European chess piece (upside down Rook, seemingly refashioned into a mock King or Queen)! Discovered in Albania. See Discovery News: Europe's Oldest Chess Piece Found.

Internet sources are not a reliable source of information on this topic - please cite academic reference for disputed facts. The Xianqi one is misleading as a number of games in chinese history have been called that name, not just the modern chess variant. Mainstream chess historian do not accept single "chess" pieces as strong evidence as the pieces could just be artwork or indeed even pieces of a differnt game. For that period a set, or a strong written/artistic evidence would be required to establish priority over the currently accept standard theories of chess history. --Imran 22:39, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

HJR Murray is not a reliable source of information on this topic. Murray's "A History of Chess" is outdated and incorrect. Chess was in fact invented in China. Sam Sloan has written an article about this, which you can read here: http://www.thechesspiece.com/ChessHistorySamSloan.htm Unfortunately it is on the internet! But who are you to say that the internet is not a reliable source of information? If it wasn't, then we'd have to delete half of Wikipedia. Also, Murray even claims (1952:35-36) that go was invented 1000 AD, when we KNOW for sure that it has existed since at LEAST 600 BC. Murray is not reliable. He's not even objective. He has also stated that: "... Chinese historians have always tended to exaggerate the age of their inventions and in particular the age of their games. Modern scholarship holds that the only Chinese board-games before the Christian era were simple games of the merels type, i.e. games of alinement." We know this is simply not true, however "currently accepted" and "academic" it might be.
The reason to why I'm not simply changing this is because I already know that none of the self-nominated western chess experts would agree and - at best - an edit war would ensue. So let's just keep this factoid on Wikipedia. 83.142.6.166 (talk) 20:58, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Merge

I suggest that a few of the items from Chess During World War II be merged into this article. Then, it can be redirected to this article. -- Kjkolb 09:03, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

OK with me. Bubba73 (talk), 20:58, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

same here! by: anonymous

Kasparov vs Deep Blue Rematch

Deeper Blue was only an unofficial nickname of Deep Blue during the rematch with Kasparov. Officially, the machine's name was still Deep Blue during the 1997 Rematch.FadulJoseA (talk) 16:21, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Lack of relevant information and other things to work on

First: where are the citations?? For practically anything? Second: we're missing relevant information.

Let's look over these things:

"1830 - Earliest recorded instance of a modern female chess player" Who was she? And how is "modern" being defined? And what makes a modern female player more notable than an immediately pre-modern female player? Not to mention that the claim seem dubious to me.

"1845 - Telegraph is used to transmit moves in a match between London and Portsmouth." Who won?

"1848 – Earliest known instance of a game played between blind players." Who were they?

"1857 – The United Kingdom Chess Association is formed." It seems strange to me that it would not be called the "British Chess Association".

"1858 – The California Chess Congress is held in San Francisco, won by Selim Franklin" This seems like it might not be notable on the scale of world chess history.

"1859 – Paul Morphy is declared unofficial world champion..." Two things seem strange to me about this. If he is unofficial WCC, would not "recognized as" be better wording? And if it is unofficial, how has 1859 been pinned down as the date?

"1871 – Durand publishes the first book on endgames." Can we find a first name and Wikipedia article for Durand? And what was his endgame book called?

"1888 – First international correspondence tournament." What was its name? Who won?

"1905 – British national championship for women starts" Unless this was the first national women's tournament, it doesn't seem notable enough.

1900 - 1915: We're missing five WCC title defences by Lasker (against Steinitz, Chigorin (twice), Schlecter, and Janowski).

"1911 – The first simultaneous exhibition with more than 100 participants is held." Who by?

"1913 – Publication of H. J. R. Murray's book A History of Chess." Is this book notable enough?

"1937 – A record for simultaneous blindfold play against 34 opponents." Who gave the simul?

The chronologically later entries seem better put together. There is, however:

"2001 – FIDE introduces shortened time controls for the knockout world championship held later that year, amid controversy." What were the new time controls? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mochicat (talk • contribs) 02:12, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Shouldn't there be an entry in 2023 about the chess.com bot Mittens, since it caused a chess surge even greater than that of The Queen's Gambit?108.94.140.253 (talk) 23:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)