Talk:Timeline of electrical and electronic engineering

Memristors

I notice there are no discoveries since the 50s. I remember recently reading about the history of Memristors - predicted to exist in the 70s and only recently produced. Presumably these might flesh out the timeline a bit? 0x0077BE (talk) 15:52, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Done Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 16:15, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Missing items

Lot's of important things missing here: integrated circuits and filters to name just two. SpinningSpark 23:05, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

As you can see in the history (2013 April) this article was about the milestones. But eventually the inventions were added and on 12th of Feb. a new section was created just for the inventions. Now I am trying to convince the other editors to split the article. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 09:32, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

We are also missing the first digital electronic computer (Colossus or the Manchester Mk1), the Edison Cell — which enabled the first generation of widely used electric vehicles in the early 1900s, Electric trains (some wagons with axle based motors in Scotland in the 1850s IIRC), Electroplating and Thermocouples (the latter being used to power the former in the first industrial application of electricity), electric tabulating machinery, Tesla's work on using AC instead of DC (but we we do include the "Clarke calculator" for calculating such installations!), magnetic tape and recording devices (audio and data), Lithium Iron batteries that have been fundamental to the success of smartphones and electric cars.

On the other hand we do have some dubious entries — is the development of a flat phonograph disk as opposed to a cylinder relevant...especially as it was a mechanical acoustic device.

I would like to contribute. But as the note at the top says, this list was cleaned up from the use of inappropriate sources. I would not like to do a lot of work, just to have scrubbed because somebody thinks my references are no good.

And how should these references be? Most of the items on the list do not have references. Most link to other Wikipedia articles, but these are often possibly incorrect themselves. For example, I have a book about Television that was published in the 1920s that would seem to contradict what is in this timeline, and the articles on which it was based.

So how should we correctly add items, and correct/scrub existing ones? 88.87.126.220 (talk) 11:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

The distinction seems to have been applied inconsistently. Street lighting, for example, is listed as a discovery, and relativity as an invention. I don't expect anyone to figure out a consistent division; better to just agglomerate it all into one long chronology including any entries from Consumer electronics that are worth keeping. Jim.henderson (talk) 01:37, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Merger

No objection having appeared, I intend to move the list that's in Consumer electronics, to this article, probably tomorrow. This will give us three timelines, even though I said above that it ought to be one rather than two. Later, the three should be consolidated. I intend to do that part gradually, and hope for help. Currently the three use three different formats: Two column, three column, and bullet list. I prefer the bullet list as easier to implement, but perhaps other editors can offer other options or good reasons for one of the columnar formats. Jim.henderson (talk) 12:00, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

As promised, I did the merger. As expected, it improved the other article at the expense of this one, which was already a poor one. I intend to start rationalizing the three lists tomorrow, but hope someone else will make an earlier stab at it. Jim.henderson (talk) 15:48, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Scientific development and Invention are not the same thing. I don't know why the two topics were merged. Besides the history of the consumer electronics is almost lost. I tried my best to inform the readers by the above tag. But unfortunately the talk page are often ignored. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 18:41, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

True, this article is not claiming to be a timeline of electrical science. Rather, it is entitled "engineering". Perhaps you are proposing to remove the scientific items, leaving only the engineering ones. Also, interested editors may want to examine the three timelines as they are now. To my eye, the "Discoveries" list contains many inventions; the "Inventions" list contains many scientific items, and the "Consumer" list contains many things that are not consumer goods. So, the idea of separating these various classes seems never to have been properly carried out. Does someone intend to try separating them rigorously? Without help from others, I despair of such precision. Jim.henderson (talk) 02:34, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Here's a link to a discussion regarding the timeline at the Consumer electronics article talk page: Talk:Consumer electronics – Merge timeline. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:15, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

physical state

will it make sense to classify by distinguishing items between being mainly solid state, liquid state and "vaporized" state of nature? a cathode ray tube is somewhat different in its nature from e.g. an LCD or a LED display. --Alexander.stohr (talk)

Nikola Tesla?

Why are we not seeing any mention of Nikola Tesla? He can be credited for a number of very influential inventions. Notably the brushless motor. 2001:569:7140:EE00:6D53:9FD4:4E82:3C36 (talk) 21:10, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Already there, 1888. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 21:31, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

1894 Niagara Falls hydroelectric plant used Tesla's polyphase AC generators manufactured and installed by Westinghouse. George W. knew almost nothing about electricity, so why is his name mentioned in this context? Tesla also had many other electric inventions. Author needs to study his many patents and their use by others and add them to this list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8A:4001:670:CCAE:A8FF:7FF3:1B6F (talk) 14:23, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

? George W. Westinghouse had built 68 alternating current power stations before he even heard of Nikola Tesla, so not sure what source you are using. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 22:56, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Title case

Why do so many entries use title case? ~Kvng (talk) 15:34, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

LaPlace?

I don't think math fits here. What about algebra? Calculus? Dfmayes (talk) 18:28, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

"Innovations in consumer electronics" section

This entire section is very strange. It's poorly formatted, contains factual errors, and is riddled with broken sentences and grammatical mistakes. I have no idea what a sentence like «It was not until 1930, he is called a " telescreen sold "at a price of 20 pounds.» is supposed to mean, and it's far from the only one like that. The section would need so much work to get it into an acceptable state that I wonder if it wouldn't be best to remove it altogether? It also feels slightly off-topic, and most of its content is probably covered by more specific timelines on the histories of television, broadcast radio, photography, etc. Scharmör (talk) 09:15, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Removed "List of IEEE Milestones"

Removed the section "List of IEEE Milestones" since it was literally a mirror / copy-paste of a single ethw.org webpage. It was single source/opinion presented as fact in Wikipedia's voice, contrary to WP:WIKIVOICE. Allot of it was also redundant to rest of list. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 22:49, 23 November 2023 (UTC)