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A plea for a 100 year narrative

Latest comment: 5 months ago10 comments5 people in discussion

Given the importance of the conflict articles to our project I had hoped for more feedback at this RFC, but I think I overcomplicated the description. Some editors may also be thinking "we've been just fine for 10 years so is there really a problem here that needs solving"? I would like to encourage more editors to contribute.

The core issue behind the RFC question is that most readers know very little about the conflict and therefore need one single summary article to read and begin their journey, and we need that single summary article to broadly match the picture that the 1,000s of books summarizing this conflict take. Instead we have sat for many years with three primary articles (IPC since 48, AIC since 48 and ICMP 20-48) which are fine but are missing something above them to thread them together into the 100-year-narrative of the conflict presented by the vast majority of books on the topic.

I recognize that many editors may find the question is a little more dry and boring than many of the debates around here, but its importance to the average Wikipedia reader can hardly be overstated.

Oncenawhile (talk) 11:10, 2 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Oncenawhile: I like the idea of having one global article that would deal with the period 1917 - today (or today minus 5 years to avoid propaganda) but all this is so complex and intricated that I doubt of the feasability. We can try to draw a plan to see how hard it would be... Pluto2012 (talk) 09:20, 10 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

The Arab-Israeli conflict is over, so who cares? Israelis and Arabs are now fist fighting with Iran and its proxies. Would the last part of your 100-year narrative is "Israel - Arab League alliance against Iran"?GreyShark (dibra) 14:49, 11 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Interesting point...

What makes you state the Arab-Israeli conflict is over ? Pluto2012 (talk) 11:50, 12 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Those things [1],[2],[3],[4],[5],[6]. The only groups which openly rival Israelis are not seated in the Arab League, so technically there are no Arab states at active war with Israel at present (even not Lebanon, which keeps the cease fire); Arab states are rather cooperating with Israel against Iran and its proxies.GreyShark (dibra) 21:08, 12 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Ok. Since Egypt made peace with Israel, no Arab state was ever a threath for Israel. Pluto2012 (talk) 22:13, 12 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

In such a multidimensional, multilateral and complicated domain such as Israeli-Arab relations, I wonder what sources are saying with regards to the proposition that the Israeli-Arab conflict is "over"? It wouldn't be the only case of cooperation and ties simultaneous to an ongoing conflict --Calthinus (talk) 20:42, 15 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Well, you have those for example: MEM - The official end to the Arab-Israeli conflict, Barry Rubin (MEF) - The Arab-Israeli Conflict Is Over, Britannica - Arab-Israeli wars (not stating that it's entirely over, but states that last major eruption was Second Intifada in early 2000s, Foreign Affairs - Israel and the Arab States A Historic Opportunity to Normalize Relations?, The Dangers of Arab Normalization with Israel, The Gulf Arab states and Israel since 1967: from ‘no negotiation’ to tacit cooperation. And there are more.GreyShark (dibra) 19:33, 16 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Your comment seems to be out of date, the conflict is ongoing. 83.137.6.233 (talk) 02:14, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

The period begins not in 1917 but in 1881 with the First Aliyah or even before with the Zionist movement in Europe. 83.137.6.233 (talk) 02:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

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