Talk:Timeline of the Troubles in Great Britain

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Canterbury Tail in topic It started in the 60s...


Orphaned references in Timeline of the Northern Ireland Troubles in Britain

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Timeline of the Northern Ireland Troubles in Britain's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

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  • From London: Number 1 Poultry (ONE 94), Museum of London Archaeology, 2013. Archaeology Data Service, The University of York.
  • From Provisional IRA's Balcombe Street Gang: Melaugh, Dr Martin. "CAIN: Chronology of the Conflict 1974". cain.ulst.ac.uk.
  • From Danny Morrison (Irish republican): "The Irish Times". Retrieved 4 October 2012.
  • From 1974 London pillar box bombings: Moysey, Steve (19 November 2013). "The Road to Balcombe Street: The IRA Reign of Terror in London". Routledge. Retrieved 31 May 2018 – via Google Books.
  • From Central Bar bombing 1975: Jack Holland & Henry McDonald, INLA – Deadly Divisions, 1994, p.83 - 84
  • From 1996 Manchester bombing: Jahangir, Rumeana (15 June 2016), "Manchester IRA bomb: Terror blast remembered 20 years on" – via www.bbc.co.uk
  • From Timeline of Ulster Defence Association actions: "Sectarian attacks from 1 February 2003 through 28 February 2003". Archived from the original on 24 September 2015. Retrieved 22 November 2014. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 16:07, 6 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

1977

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I've removed the fifth anniversary segment from the 1977 entry on the London bombing because January 29th 1977 is not the fifth anniversary of an event on January 30th 1972 under any calendar system. References don't support it was for the fifth anniversary of Bloody Sunday, one speculates it and the other clearly says it happened 72 hours before the anniversary commemoration. Since the dates don't match up it's not possible to state that it's the fifth anniversary of Bloody Sunday. Canterbury Tail talk 12:10, 17 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Source it or lose it

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This article contains many entries not including an inline citation. Please rectify this, or unreferenced entries and claims will be removed. FDW777 (talk) 17:29, 15 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Also references such as this are not acceptable, since they do not attribute the incidents to the Troubles. FDW777 (talk) 17:45, 15 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Since the response to this was to add another "reference" of the exact same type that has been called unacceptable above, I have taken action. Lots of unreferenced, or improperly referenced, incidents removed in this edit. I have not had time to check all the references still in the article, so more may be removed if necessary. FDW777 (talk) 20:15, 30 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Orchard Street bombing, 25 December 1983

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The reason we don't use references like Hansard is rather straightforward. Not only is it a policy violation, but because several different references say that particular bombing wasn't part of the Troubles at all. FDW777 (talk) 17:38, 2 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Fair enough. Canterbury Tail talk 17:47, 2 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

It started in the 60s...

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Is there any reason this wiki starts with attacks in the 70s? Seems clearly biased in favour of the UVF. It's well recorded they committed the first sectarian attack in June 1966 that started The Troubles. I'm happy to add it and start the section of UVF violence but it just seems surprising that it hasn't already been included. I assume it's not because it was removed as a result of anti-Republican sentiment? Breora (talk) 04:46, 18 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

I see no reason not to include them, as long as the references are good and support it, they should be included. But just remember, this article is about The Troubles in Britain, not the general timeline of The Troubles. So any attacks or incidents in Ireland or Northern Ireland are not to be included. Those UVF attacks you're talking about took place in Northern Ireland, not Britain, and are therefore out of the scope of this article. Canterbury Tail talk 12:50, 18 December 2022 (UTC)Reply