Talk:Togo women's national football team

Latest comment: 2 years ago by PCN02WPS in topic GA Reassessment
Former good articleTogo women's national football team was one of the Sports and recreation good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
June 29, 2012Good article nomineeListed
May 13, 2022Good article reassessmentDelisted
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 2, 2012.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Togo women's national football team participated in the 2007 Tournoi de Cinq Nations in Ouagadougou but was disqualified after the first match for sending a club team?
Current status: Delisted good article

DYK nomination

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GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Togo women's national football team/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Batard0 (talk · contribs) 12:23, 27 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

I'm beginning a review of five articles about African women's football teams simultaneously. Unless they're finished earlier, I will put them on hold for at least a week and a half as the review process continues, recognizing that this will likely be somewhat more complex than the average GA review. For reference, the articles are as follows:

--Batard0 (talk) 12:23, 27 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

I made some edits for clarity and concision. I think it's getting better, but let me know if you disagree with anything. Meantime, here are some specific points for clarification:

  • I'm not sure where the training five times a week fits into the article, as in the Guinea-Bissau one. I'd consider removal.
  • I don't get how we're saying they played five games in 2006, and then go on to describe seven. Were a couple of these not FIFA-sanctioned?
  • Standardization of "History" "Team" "The team" sections (all the sections after the leads).
  • What happened with the Africa Women's U-20 World Cup qualifiers? It says Togo had a walkover win, but then doesn't say what happened next.
  • Same issue with human rights clause.
  • What does it mean for the country to have 380 registered players? Are these people registered with the national federation?
    • Yes, registered players means they are registered through the national federation. This is different than how many people play the sport casually. (No data that I can find on that.) --LauraHale (talk) 00:11, 29 June 2012 (UTC)Reply
  • As with the others, when we talk about organised football, can we be more specific about what sorts of teams/players these are? Are these professional or national leagues? Same goes for the national competition. It would be good to have some more clarity on what that is.
    • Can't be more specific as the sources don't really explicitly spell it out. Found a source for another tournament that may give a better idea that this is not professional women's football. (Which is the case in Rwanda, where the sources explicitly state that.) --LauraHale (talk) 00:38, 29 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

That's it for now. I think we're on the way here. --Batard0 (talk) 03:09, 28 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

Update: I think we're pretty much good to go. Just one thing:

  • I'm confused about reference #23. While it comes from a German site, I'm presuming it's in French because that's the colonial language there. Second, does this really come from or incorporate info from the German Wikipedia? It looks to me like it's a website not connected with Wikipedia. I'd be concerned if we were using Wikipedia to reference a Wiki article, as I believe that's prohibited. But I'm sure I just don't understand the whole story.

Let me know and I think we'll be sorted.--Batard0 (talk) 11:38, 29 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


After a variety of improvements, this article meets the GA criteria. Well done.

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:  
    The prose is clear and concise, with no grammatical errors or spelling mistakes.
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:  
    It conforms with basic MoS rules.
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:  
    The references are reliable sources by Wikipedia standards
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:  
    The inline citations are adequate.
    C. No original research:  
    There's no evidence of OR here.
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:  
    It covers the major aspects of the topic.
    B. Focused:  
    It is focused without going into unnecessary detail.
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:  
    No POV issues.
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:  
    No edit wars.
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:  
    Images are appropriately tagged.
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:  
    Images are appropriate for the article.
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:  
    It meets all the relevant criteria.
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GA Reassessment

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This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Togo women's national football team/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

Over the coming days, I will be reassessing this article to determine whether it still meets the Good Article criteria. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 05:08, 4 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
  1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. Some issues, those are detailed below.
  1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. Numerous issues. Team rosters need missing information added, Individual records have two empty and orange-tagged lists, honours section is empty, managers section is unsourced, the first all-time records section has no citations or a color key, the second all-time record section which is named identically to the first one has two empty lists, etc. See also section doesn't need "Women's football in Togo" if there's no link there.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
  2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. Refs 14 and 15 are formatted incorrectly, Ref 17 is a bare URL. A couple other inconsistencies (Ref 8 and 9, for example)
  2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). Happy to go through these individually once other issues are taken care of.
  2c. it contains no original research. Managers list and Achievements section are unsourced.
  2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
3. Broad in its coverage:
  3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. Only one line of unsourced prose about the "Team image", which just gives the name of the home stadium. No background info or anything like that is given.
  3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
  4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
  6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. Team logo is fair use.
  6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. Team logo is relevant.
  7. Overall assessment.

Issues with criterion 1a

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Lead/infobox

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  • Article has been orange-tagged for an update since September 2020
  • No need to include "unknown" in the infobox, just take those fields out
  • The lead first paragraph says "The team has played five FIFA-recognised matches" but the second paragraph says "Currently, they are unranked on the FIFA Women's World Rankings for not having played more than five matches against officially ranked teams", this seems contradictory to me. Also their FIFA ranking is listed as 115 in the infobox so this second paragraph of the lead seems inaccurate.

History

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  • In the second paragraph, is there any explanation as to why they withdrew?
  • Third paragraph, "The performance of the new team, however, wasn't good as expected" → how good were they expected to be?
  • Third paragraph is entirely unsourced.

Overall review conclusion

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WP:GAR states that An individual assessment may be closed after seven days of no activity. As there have been no improvements made on the article and the reassessment has been open for nine days, I am closing the review. My conclusion is that the article fails GA criteria 1a, 1b, 2a, 2c, and 3a, at least, and therefore will be   delisted. If improvements are made in the future, and the article is brought up to par, it can be renominated for GA. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 18:15, 13 May 2022 (UTC)Reply